brokenbrastraps

Well you can't just swoop down here with your grounded understanding and sensible rationale Sis!

I suspect these last comments are made by chicks who haven't had babes yet?!

Plus, we're not talking about parenting, we're talking about sentiment. Or at least I was. And basing the bringing of a child into the world on some shonky logic isn't too stable a foundation I reckon.

Oops. It's kind of an insult to the kid, because having a kid under those circumstances implies that the kid is not really that important to the decision of having one.

Shit, does that fucking make sense?? :)

Oh come on Ohyeah - to choose to have a kid so that they 'don't have to work anymore' is a stupid reason to have a kid. Surely? Not least, as you've already pointed out, because 'they are working, they are mothers.'

I reckon that's not completely off-topic Postergirl. Having financial freedom in a relationship is a priority - which is what would be missing if you were 'kept'. Too many people split up over what seems like stupid money shit - bills, rent blah blah blah (including my own ma and pa). The best relationships are the ones where you have no obligations to stay other than a bit of love, slap n tickle.

I think there are varying types of ambition.

A stay at home housewife/husband has a different level of ambition from a person who just leeches off their partners earnings.

But essentially, you aren't worthless if you have no ambition, but you are slightly pathetic.

elaine said 32 seconds ago: It's downright disrespectful to willingly choose to be 'kept' when people have fought hard for women to have other options. gosh! I thought they fought for women to choose what they wanted? Feminism was not supposed to be about being forced into another way of life, it was supposed to be about having the option to do what they wanted.

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Like I said, I'm no expert on matters like these. But it strikes me that, if a bunch of chicks are cool with being 'kept' it continues to make it harder for people to accept women that don't want to.

Spidey said 1 minute ago: I was in those circumstances that you speak of, BBS. I was very lucky to have such a wonderful partner to keep me afloat in my recovery. I dont know what would have happened to me otherwise. Then again, if we are talking in monetary terms, the monies i had/have has helped us both

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You're not really being kept if you're contributing financially Spidey!

Ohyeah said 45 seconds ago: that isn't decison made to be proprietary in nature though. admittedly my statement was short and fiery, but it is the thought of actively deciding that you will accept money from another to sit at home because they are cheating on their partner i have a problem with. you are accepting gratutities and are bound to this person for sex.

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And I have less of a problem with accepting money for sex than I do with women actively not getting off their arses and letting someone else pay for their life. I feel they need to get some independence and some ambition, get out there and fucking, I dunno, get it!!

Ohyeah said 3 minutes ago: i'm with you BBS, for me it equals lack of self worth. fuck that.

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There are circumstances that I know where women have become 'kept' after something traumatic has happened and work is just not an option. It has been discussed and agreed with both partners and to me, that is reasonable. But that is the only circumstances that I can think of where being 'kept' is mildly acceptable.

elaine said 12 minutes ago: That any woman would think of being kept or being a mistress is just... unbelievable why? because you wouldn't?

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That, yes. But also, and I'm no expert, but haven't woman tried and suffered for several AGES to put themselves in the position to not be 'kept'? It's downright disrespectful to willingly choose to be 'kept' when people have fought hard for women to have other options. There are bigger implications here then just having your rent, bills and pocket money paid for by somebody else.

Dear Radio Rentals,

You kinda ripped me off didn't you? Cheeky monkeys.

BBS