I avoid creation as a rule.

creation is good for the shoegazer, rough trade is good for the post-punk.

thread closed.

hmmm, creation?

for my bloody valentine alone?

Rough Trade

I can't think of anything I own that's released by Creation, what's their story?

are the smiths enough to give it to rough trade?

why would you avoid creation? super furry animals, mbv, primal scream. jeepers tough crowd

Oh, shoegazer.

Rough Trade for deffo.

i have thought about it now and i like both of them

oh fuck and teenage fanclub for creation how could i forget.

It was a lame joke, steveholt.

I was making reference to creationism as a theory, not the record label.

What next?
Mute vs 4AD?
Factory vs Zoo?
Jeepster vs Sarah?

You're talking the English Rough Trade, right...? They did On Fire by Galaxie 500. Rough Trade in the U.S. did all kindsa stuff, like Butthole Surfers, etc.

On the other hand, Creation did some noisier stuff; like Silverfish. Then again, Creation are responsible for Oasis... make of that what you will.

I think Creation wins the day for me; House of Love, MBV, (early) Ride... good stuff.

Creation or Poptones?

haha.

BTW Rough Trade wins, due to James Blood Ulmer's 'Are You Glad To Be In America?'

and The Raincoats

I just did some research, I'm not sure either of them are all that. I thought I liked Rough Trade more than I do..

To confuse matters, Geoff Travis relaunched Rough Trade Records under the name Rough Trade Recordings

primal screams xtrmntr was a great album. apparently primal scream released last single ever on creation.

love creation. super furry animals, my bloody valentine, primal scream, teenage fanclub, ride, boo radleys, the telescopes, slowdive...awesome stuff.

also released some utter tripe. like heavy stereo. but, you know.

Rough Trade.

oops, forgot some other favourites...jesus and mary chain and swervedriver!

The name Rough Trade always cracks me up because of its other meaning

It was Rough Trade Distribution that went bankrupt rather than the label, although it took the label with it.
Rough Trade's legacy also includes the shop and what was, for a while, a great distribution company (which distributed Creation). Creation has a bunch of great records, and years of McGee being a drugged-up rent-a-quote. Although in releasing ''Loveless'', ''Bandwagonesque'', ''Screamadelica'' and ''Nowhere'' in an 18-month period it propbably had a run of records RT never equalled, Rough Trade is way more important.

mouthing ''only the strongest will survive, These days you've got to .......''

kicks mic stand off stage

Walks off with tears in the eyes

mani is also responsible for much of vanishing point's finest toons

• make that, only 2 but both great

Creation, duh.

This is an awesome idea, JunkiePhil. Can't wait! I reckon Three Month Sunset could pull off a mean Slowdive, too.

Hey filterfeed, see you on the 23rd of July :)

but but but - i'm in sydney next weekend. poor filterfeed.

Yay! So am I!

awesome, about to inform the troops, just looking for a suitable place or event to meet.

Where's JP?
Alan McGee interviewed about the forthcoming Creation Records movie

terrible interview

if anyone doesn't get the spirit of what creation was about, it seems to be mcgee himself

i wish he would fuck off for good

Yeah, I've read both the books and they're both good.

Rough Trade

Reading this at the moment. Bloody good yarn it is.

great book. totally fascinating until the oasis bit

which book? I can't see your pic.
I really like Manchester: Looking For the Light Through the Pouring Rain.

This one is gold...

Shaun Ryder and Tony Wilson, 1989. The NME had a cover story about Manchester but we didn't think Tony on the cover would sell it, so I asked Shaun along. I worked with the Happy Mondays a lot. When I first met Shaun, Tony bigged me up to him, saying: 'Kevin's shot Joy Division and the Sex Pistols'. Shaun said: 'But they’re all fucking dead,' and I thought, 'Oh dear'

The Creation Records Story - My Magpie Eyes Are Hungry For The Prize by David Cavanagh

So The Loft
Any thoughts?

watch the june brides and avoid the loft would be my opinion

astor never did much for me

Where is that thread about the doco Upside Down doco?

FUCKEN amazng, man! FUCKEN amazing!

Good interviews and all that. Seymour Stein!