His girl friend is rather hot, too hot really, for a gang moll.

what sort of second-rate organised crime culture do we have in Melbourne, when THIS BLOKE IS THE SCARIEST DUDE:

He had all the really scarey looking ones killed, except for Andrew Venjamin, who Mick Gatto got. IN SELF DEFENCE, of course.

How does someone like Carl Williams murder 3 people and still avoid a life sentence.

35 years? Which means he'll be elegible for parole when?

What could he possibly have to offer society? Just lock him up and throw away the fucking key.

He'll be out at age 61.

closet downie?

closet?

He's not scary? If you were in a dark alley somewhere and he had a gun trained on you, what would you do? Come up with a few pithy one-liners?

http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2007/05/07/carl_wideweb__470x287,0.jpg

"This is just like being at the zoo! Except i'm da aminal!"

anyone coming up to me in a dark alley with a gun trained on me would be scary.

> blake3030 said 7 minutes ago: He'll be out at age 61.

71

he looks like Mr Blobby.

Really?

If it were Williams I'd be scared. If it were you danz, it'd be kind of comical.

Ha, i was sure I read 61 in that article.

71 is even better.

Watch what you say, blake, he'll still come after you.

... with a cane and a demented smile

As the court adjourned, Williams said: "I have something to say." Holding a clipboard, he told Justice King: "I expected nothing better of you. You are not a judge. You are only a puppet of the police. You are a puppet for Purana." Justice King then asked for Williams to be removed, at which point he yelled: "Ah, get f**ed."*

Class all the way.

His whole family is fucked. His parents were smirking in the court room, as if they were proud of their serial killer son....and that 21 year old chick who is his "girlfriend", whats the deal with that??

Which wouldn't make sense as there are guards at every door to see them through

Wrong. Officers aren't everywhere. Prisoners go through doors all the time without being escorted or the doors manned.

You are assuming that prison guards can read.

Luckily the Herald-Sun Keeps It Simple Stupid...

And I don't think the suggestion is meant to be that Ivanovic is the killer. The news reports (which is where I'm gaining all my information from) stated Williams ''ran-out'' with 2 other prisoners, meaning they were trusted to be out of cells with him for the 2-hour period per day Williams would've been out of his cell. Therefore the prison officers wouldn't have been watching them every moment, which means it's possible they didn't notice for the 20 minutes they allegedly took to respond... (don't exaggerate Poprocks!)

I had just arrived in the waiting area at the Blood Bank when I heard the news that Carl Williams had been bashed to death in the exercise yard. Jokes about how hard it was to picture him exercising were already circling the room as I sat down with my clipboard and questionnaire. The TV was repeating what little information was known. The identity of the man who medics had failed to revive at Barwon prison ninety minutes earlier hadn’t yet been confirmed, but Carl’s greatest hits were on high rotate; shots of him striding out of court, having been cleared, yet again, of any involvement; shots of him marching into court to deny any and all knowledge; and shots of him squeezed into a pair of orange overalls, momentarily glimpsed as he makes that little shuffle from the side door of the court to the back of a divvy van (you’re nobody in Melbourne crime till you’ve been captured on a long lens making that one-and-a-half second jog). And in all of them, Carl wore the same expression: the puckish smile of The Boy Who Ate All the Pies.

Wow.

Anyone recognise the photo of the blacked out eyed alleged killer on the front page of the age this morning?

I did. He's been in the news before.

But obviously it's against the law to type his name.

Really? Even if you're not part of the 'media'?

If I'm honest with you, he just reminds me of Paul from Lygon Cycles.

I think writing it in this forum would constitute publishing. Do you think this is not part of the media?

Yep, this is the media.

But you can drop huge-ass hints, right? Like the Age did with the picture?

hmmmmm. depends on how deep your pockets are if you have to defend contempt of court charges.
But the DPP does seem pretty uninterested in prosecuting those.

The Herald Sun (delivered to my table at breakfast while I was on the phone?) was full of shit about this today. I don;t care and never did. I was more interested in the (completely disappointing) story about a fifteen year old murder charge that was brought last night.

Wrong. Officers aren't everywhere. Prisoners go through doors all the time without being escorted or the doors manned.>

I thought that's how they did it at this section - Acacia - of the prison. But I dunno.

Yeah that story about the murder charge was really shit. Didn't really tell you anything although it was over two (?) pages.

I can't understand why no guards noticed for 20-25 minutes.

Having said that, there's been loads of similar prison blues - there was a terrible one about 8 years ago, where some prisoners spent 45 minutes smashing down a glass wall (armed with exercise equipment and whatever else that could find) before gaining access to the poor dude locked alone on the other side of the glass. All without coming to attention of the guards. You can imagine the rest (he lived through it though).

However, one wonders what a couple of (I assume un-armed) private security officers could have done to restrain a massive guy like the one in Carl's case (in case The Age photo had you in any doubt - on that note, should we not give people serving sentence something other to do than build shit loads of muscle).

Sounds like there are some dodgy coppers involved in this. There's an Underbelly spin-off movie in this one.

Nightwatchman, you must have a good memory. I'm not aware of him being in the news since 2002!

Just received from my sister via SMS: Roberta Williams visited Carl in prison a few days before he died. She noticed how fat he was getting and remarked, ''Jeez Carl, an exercise bike wouldn't kill ya!''

boom boom eastside.

a golden coffin...a true cunt to the bitter end

Apparently they played Simply The Best during the service.

I'm now picturing David Brent giving the Eulogy whilst reading from the Little Book of Feel Good Quotes

and roberta williams and co. arrived at the funeral in a stretch hummer limousine

just proof they still buy into their own mythology that their lives are ''glamorous''....

nothing says bogan glam more than a limo. and a hummer limo is bogan off the charts.

stretch hummer limousine

Oh, yes. That was a particularly classy touch.