there's a clause in the charter that says you're allowed to buy a ticket at the end of your journey

look it up, write a letter back, quoting it

you might get off

thanks
which charter is this ?

Note: Passengers who do not have a valid ticket because they were running late for their train or did not have sufficient change to purchase one will not be excused on ‘reasonable opportunity’ grounds.

or maybe not

info here

bup-bow

As michael horse wisely said words to the effect of a while back, you knew the law and you chose to break it so you should take responsibility for your actions and deal with the consequences

step 1: pretend search desperately for your ticket. pat yourself down, rummage through your bag, "i know it's here somewhere" kinda thing.

step 2: accept fine with good grace

step 3: buy a daily zone one and two ticket

step 4: canvas platform trying to find someone with a ticket validated BEFORE time of offence and offer a swap plus any other monetry compensation if needed.

step 5: photocopy ticket and include this with your letter of protestation saying "see i did have one and i eventually found it"

step 6: bask in glee and piss the $158 up the wall

oh, and advice for next time .. carry unvalidated tickets with you .. easier to rush and validate when they come on... you still might get caught, but better chance

Bugsy-you did the crime,now do the time..............it's the same as a speeding fine,what can you do!?! just wear it:(

but it was at 11:15 at night there were no shops around where i could get change or buy a ticket
what was supposed to do? walk

I appealed my fine for not having a VALID ticket.

I got a letter back informing me there's no excuse they will accept for not having one, it's just all bureaucratic nonsense.

so you didnt get out of paying it then modi

but it was at 11:15 at night there were no shops around where i could get change or buy a ticket what was supposed to do? walk

That's what Yarra Trams would have you do, yes.

Bugsy-tell it to the judge............bitch.

Yeah, I've sent a letter to them detailing how they failed to uphold their end of the bargain in regards to the service that's supposed to be provided, and it's a standard form letter (which of course detailed none of the issues concerning my particular case) back saying that if I wanted to take it further it's court time.

you might be able to tell them you're a student and can't afford the $158 up front and request a payment plan of $10 per week or something like that. i've heard it can happen.

i remember when visiting melb once, there were signe at the tram stops emphasising the need to have the right money for the ticket machines on the trams, but no indication of what the fare was.

How can you have the right money when they don't tell you what the fare is?

last time i got busted for not having a ticket was last year.
I was convinced i had no money so didnt even bother attempting to buy a ticket. turned out i had $20 in $2 coins in my pocket.
silly me

I usually carry unvalidated tickets and make sure I sit within easy reach of a validator.

The other day the inspectors gave a really hard time to some guy they saw rushing over to the validator ("If you didn't have anything to hide, then why did you rush over when you saw us?")

Given that the fuckers will fine you pretty much whatever you do, I find the most dignified thing is to say, when they ask why you have no valid ticket, "I'm a fare evader." And when they probe for further information, you say "I'm a fare evader. I enjoy riding trams for free."

benji: sorry mate you're screwed. If you want to take it further the $158 will seem like small change compared to the court costs.

I carry unvalidated tix and sit next to the validator, mostly.

i love zooming down nicholson st on the tram, in the dedicated lane, leaving behind the cars clogged there .... and i love not having to pay for parking in the city

I love zooming out of the city while everyone else is stuck in gridlock on their way in. I wave to them on the Calder.

bwahahahahahahahahaaaaaar.

And free parking too.... ;)

^^ me too!

HOWEVER. I get speeding fines, and I will hit the next person who says:

"you should have obeyed the law, so neener neener neener"

Fuck y'all.

i've been fined dozens of times. i just don't buy tickets

as soon as i get infringement notices i just throw them in the bin.

at first i paid one or two fines, but then the court notices came, and then i threw them in the bin as well.

NOTHING HAS EVER HAPPENED TO ME,

nobody has come to my door, nobody has come to take my property away from me.
i've never been arrested, i've never been deported.

if you never pay the fine, nothing will happen and eventually it will just go away through the statute of limitations.

i hope this helps. i'm being serious by the way.

You fucking legend.... wish i had your cajones!

you can also buy an unvalidated ticket and put a massive crease down the magnetic strip so it won't validate. if inspectors get on tell them the guy at the 7-11 sold you a dodgey ticket and you paid good money for that damn thing and ain't gonna buy another..

or you can pretend that you can't speak english.

hate to see your credit rating there, goldie.

if you never pay the fine, nothing will happen and eventually it will just go away through the statute of limitations.

yeah i've been told this as well, apparently if you avoid it for 5 years it automatically gets wiped.

golden-frown: if you never pay the fine, nothing will happen and eventually it will just go away through the statute of limitations.

I'm pretty sure all that stuff sits on your record and if you come to the cops' attention at any point they'll fuck ya with it. (Not sure about the statute of limitations bit.)

mother fucking cunt faced cunt motherfuckers !!!!
i got busted again at 6am this morning coming home from the city i ran to catch a tram for 4 stops .
i had no cash on me at all i am never riding a tram again they the most useless form of public transport ever

A friend of my exes got put in jail for 29 days for the sheer quantity of unpaid public transport fines.

lordsnot said 17 days ago: step 1: pretend search desperately for your ticket. pat yourself down, rummage through your bag, "i know it's here somewhere" kinda thing.

step 2: accept fine with good grace

step 3: buy a daily zone one and two ticket

step 4: canvas platform trying to find someone with a ticket validated BEFORE time of offence and offer a swap plus any other monetry compensation if needed.

step 5: photocopy ticket and include this with your letter of protestation saying "see i did have one and i eventually found it"

step 6: bask in glee and piss the $158 up the wall

I did exactly this, and still didn't get off. They said they couldn't prove the ticket was mine. So I moved house and they didn't catch up with me.

Manhattan: 1
Yarra Trams: 0

fucken cunts i am seriously contemplating taking these to court
i vow to bring this sham of public transport system to its knees

there wouldn't happen to be a Q,C around here who take this case on pro bono ?

elaine....i'm worried about your comment.

nevertheless

*golden-frown: if you never pay the fine, nothing will happen and eventually it will just go away through the statute of limitations.

I'm pretty sure all that stuff sits on your record and if you come to the cops' attention at any point they'll fuck ya with it. (Not sure about the statute of limitations bit.)*

well i recently went for a job and got a police check done...it came up all clear. as for poor credit, i recently applied for a credit card with a reasonable limit, and it got approved...

im sure it must catch with you somehow, sometime... but so far so good.

Good luck trying to get any money out of Bono, that miserable Irish cunt.

This just happened to me.

Hey all,

I was googling mad as I got a ticket recently as was sweating madly about it and got some good advice from here so would like to pass on my experience to help my fellow city dwellers.

Well 2 actually as I didnt give out my address and was detained at the station till the police arrived, all a joke, had only been in Oz a week. I felt I was assaulted so I phoned them the next day and registered a complaint, this was rejected as suprisingly my side of the story was different to the 5 inspectors who held me (was pissed as a fart so they kind of took advantage, any other day would have thumped someone who did that to me) but I appealed the tickets, I mean 2 tickets at $172 (1 for no ticket and 1 for not giving my address out, I was staying with a friend and didnt have the address with me) each is a joke and I got let off with a warning which was a huge relief. I enclosed copies of other tickets I bought and orginals of others I had used. I had also recently arrived from the UK and quoted this and reiterated my earlier complaint, and I didnt know how ur system worked here, I had a ticket on me but hadnt validated it.

I since learnt the system and now carry a citysaver with me, a 10 stop multi journey ticket and a weekend saver as well, also got a Miki but that hasnt started yet. So I have to carry 3 types of tickets on me, cant imagine what its like for someone who doesnt speak English, all a bit of a disaster and I really dont like organisations like that, seen the way those inspectors act is shocking, they are not even on commision?! Just jumped up twats who are failures in life and this is the only kick they get, they are to be pitied!

I hate trams, they are so slow and stop everywhere and the ticket inspectors are Nazis so I bought a bike and cycle everywhere and have lost some weight which is good. Sadly it will just get worse so walk with ur feet, get a bike, travel while ur working out and saving money!