should i put this under stuff no one gives a shit about?

most definitely

he's hot too.

clap clap SGH

nicely down

done, not down

there was a brief discussion of this in the 2006 qalbum leaks thread

I heard it was out on the 29th.

Yep, got it. Haven't really had a good listen. He was never the most consistent dude. Still love him though.

his track which uses the liquid swords instrumental is boring as shit. same thing he does at the live shows. pulls out a track to pay tribute too, then just mumbles over it.

What's the best album of his to start with?

Black on Both Sides

it's the only album you'll need really. The rest of his solo work is below average.

The album he did with Talib Kweli under the name Black Star is pretty OK.

I'd recommend getting Black on both sides and then jsut search for all of the songs that he has guested on (eg, Massive Attack, DJ Shadow, Prefuse 73, etc)

The only stuff I've heard has been his numerous live appearances on the Chappelle show, and they were always pretty great.

Cheers Blake.

talib kweli's solo stuff is better (except for black on both sides)

The Reflection Eternal album is an extremely under-rated album as fas as i'm concerned. The production on that is some of the best i've ever heard. Hi-Tek was ace. Great hip-hop album, probably made even better by lack of skits.

Fuck Black on Both Sides is a good album. I'm listening to it now, and comparing the hip hop shit from this year and nothing comes close. Especially Mos Def's newer stuff. Shame.

new records supposed to be awesome.

any deets? is it out yet?

he sings a lot on it. that is not a good thing.

Friday, 14 January 2011 | Palace Theatre

presale on tomorrow.

louis said about 1 year ago:
he sings a lot on it. that is not a good thing.

Damn right.

cancelled I hear?

Why didn't you go to the press earlier, dznr? Or M+N. Or anyone. Why did you wait until now to air these grievances, if they have clearly caused you significant heartache and financial losses? Why are you criticising me for researching something that nobody else bothered to look into? Is there a giant bug in your ass today, or are you like this every day? I am terribly sorry for failing you. In future I will run everything I do past you. Cheers.

Pffft, the same could be asked of Sam, NiteShok. Stop being snippy - you're not exactly coming across well here.

Did you not read the bit where I said ''debt collectors''?

We along with a number of others have instigated legal proceedings but until Sam returns to Australia, there isn't shit we can do.

We have no need to go to the press and it's known in the industry what he's done - the only reason people are arcing up at your PR piece for Sam in here and on Facebook and on other sites is cos no one expected to see an interview from a dodgy dude crying poor.

Again, terrible poorly researched writing that functions as no more than a PR piece for Sam.

Guessing he didn't tell you about the tour he just sold to an australian promoter recently or the other up coming tour he's behind?

Out of the live music industry my arse.

Feel good to get used by this dude as well?

dnzr - I think you're being way too hard on Niteshok. This wasn't some big feature article for a well known newspaper / magazine. For something like that, you'd expect there to be a more in-depth look at the whole situation. In this case it was for a website and it was just a follow up story to the Mos Def cancellations to get an idea as to what went on and why that happened.

I agree that a follow up story would be good, and it's awful of this guy to leave the country without settling his debts. That's not Niteshok's fault though. No need to get pissy at him.

This wasn't some big feature article for a well known newspaper / magazine.

was front page of the Brisbane Times website 2 days ago.

and yeah, i might be coming down on the writer a little hard but there a whole bunch of people pissed that something that has pretty much been a PR pity piece for a scammer has been re-published internationally on dozens of sites and blogs.

Someone start a ''Calm Down, DNZR'' thread.

why should dnzr calm down? the dude that ripped him fled the country and then dnzr had to read about the 'poor crying promoter'. I'd say that's a justified reason to be pissed.

Probably typical of the vine though, I wouldn't expect hard hitting journalism over there. More likely what they thought of the latest harry potter.

you're all missing the point here, and that is that Mos Def is a boring-ass dude with boring-ass production and wack flows.

why should dnzr calm down?

Nite

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NiteShok said 7 hours ago:
Why didn't you go to the press earlier, dznr? Or M+N. Or anyone. Why did you wait until now to air these grievances, if they have clearly caused you significant heartache and financial losses? Why are you criticising me for researching something that nobody else bothered to look into? Is there a giant bug in your ass today, or are you like this every day? I am terribly sorry for failing you. In future I will run everything I do past you. Cheers.

Why would you not follow it up though? To save face? I'm not sure I understand how this whole journalismy thingamabob works; I'd assume if a story develops that contradicts statements made in one article that has caught the attention of a fairly large audience then you'd follow the story to some sort of logical conclusion. I guess it doesn't really fit into the predetermined narrative of ''rude yank artists rip off oz promoters'' or whatever the intent of the original article is. Granted, this isn't 'All The Presidents Men' but still, c'mon.

Am I the only one rocking a pair of massively erect nipples right now?

Can people stop pretending this article was an editorial?

It was an interview. NiteShok asked questions, recorded the answers.

what really sux is seeing it all over the place and getting retweeted with tag lines like ''brilliant interview with sam speaight'', ''The promoter behind Mos Def’s ill fated 2011 Australian tour has spoken out about what really happened'', '' Promoter of the disastrous Mos Def Oz tour of 2011 spills his guts on what happened & the prob with hip-hop tours:'', ''you MUST read this interview about the pain and misery of hip hop tour promotion''.

and so on.

pretty poor that when numerous people have spoken up, the writer seems totally uninterested in exploring another side to the story.

so as it stands, it's a puff piece for a dodgy dude who's run away O/S to hide from his debts.

untold/animals: Am I the only one rocking a pair of massively erect nipples right now?

POTD!

pretty poor that when numerous people have spoken up, the writer seems totally uninterested in exploring another side to the story.

Could be because he'd just be giving an obviously very angry bloke the opportunity to mouth off in the press. You may as well ask Kevin Bloody Wilson to perform at the Grand Final.

dnzr, you're not being very buddhist about this.

he's got 99 problems but mos def ain't one

wait, dnzr is a buddhist????

Could be because he'd just be giving an obviously very angry bloke the opportunity to mouth off in the press.

Would read a lot better as ''unhappy creditors an opportunity to respond to, and correct and clarify untrue statements made in an interview''

unhappy editors an opportunity to respond to, and correct and clarify untrue statements made in an interview