bxckxtrxdxr said about 1 year ago or at 1:26PM on Thursday, March 11 2010 in industry
So the wowsers are at it again. Is there not end to their complete and utter out-of-touchness with modern life?
As, a) someone who lives in the city, and b) needs to buy packaged alcohol at 4:30 am, the Exford is a lifesaver.
But Brumby has stupidly said: ''I'm not convinced that you need 24-hour outlets. I can't think of too many cities in the world when you can walk out at five in the morning and go down to a liquor shop and buy booze.''
OK, well here's 2 cities that do: Berlin, Paris...
And as far as it goes, shift workers may not be able to get to a bottle shop during ''normal'' business hours.
exactly modi.
What this tells me is that Bruce Milne was wise to pull the plug on the Tote when he did (not that he had much choice) as even if he'd gone to VCAT and won, it would be challenged by LLV.
utterly ridiculous, premier. for once i agree with VCAT's decision on something.
this place was a god-send at 3 in the morning when i had been working all night and just wanted to buy a sixer and go home. same goes for the place on chapel street (/prays premier doesn't read this thread). not everyone is locked in the 9-5, early-bedder/early-riser cycle.
i noticed in the media reports on tv yesterday, they did not mention that it has a history of having a virtual 24 hour licence. pfft. like it's just a new thing to happen all of a sudden. idiots.
NYC is another place where you can pop down to the local bodega and pick up a sixer at all hours. Clearly, he doesn't get out much.
So, Brumby wants to transform Melbourne into a European-style all night city but only on his terms? I'm astounded how out of touch this Govt is.
BTW, I went to a meeting the other night with some VCAT panelists and they seem very open-minded and measured.
yeah, that meeting sounded promising kuro, but with the wowsers in power, it's looking a bit scary.
To what extent have they weighed up the threat it poses versus the value of the service it provides. Gotta say though, not disputing the convenience of a 24-hour bottle shop - and more so for some lifestyles in particular - but I'd give a fuck about bigger things than that. Not saying for a moment, shut it, but if so, doesn't strike me as the biggest act of wowserism going around. Can't say it's my favourite place to visit - with the occasional puke and blood and bad seeds - either.
you can buy booze at 7/11's all around the world and most of them are 24 hours. so just because they are not offically bottle shops this doesnt mean that booze is unavailable at all hours.
Someone wrote a song about the 24 hour bottle-o on Chapel St. I can't for the life of me remember who. Several of my friends who work in bars in the city have been kicked out/banned from there at one stage.
They make most of their money after midnight as there are tumbleweeds blowing through during the day when I go in for the one at lunch.
I also liken the Exford much more to a shithole with limited cultural value that you only step inside when you're pinging off your chops than I do, say, The Tote.
Nuclear weapons are also available widely.
hey albert. do you live in the city? and do you need the services of a 24 hr bottlo? if no, then why do you have an opinion?
that's cos no one would pay their ridiculous prices during daylight when they have other options. After hours, there is no other option, hence... cash monies!!
No, I don't live in the city. I don't need the services of a 24 hr bottle shop - though do want them occasionally enough. Not following why that excludes me from having an opinion though. I think I said earlier though, I don't really have an opinion. I'm just confident there are plenty of arguments and counter arguments and appreciate that balancing those is important. And servicing the likes of yourself is only one aspect of a pretty involved issue. Maybe they could put a few on King Street too? And near the Casino? And when things get out of hand, just close down Pony or something. But this instance really doesn't strike me as life or death or thin edge of the wedge enough to bother forming an opinion on though. That said, my uninformed, knee-jerk vote would to keep it open.
I did go in their footy tipping last year and went to one of the shows during the comedy festival there.
Some friends used to have their Mad Mondays playing ''the gun game'' there also.
Well, the interesting thing is that it's neither the only 24 hour bottle shop in Melbourne, nor the first, just maybe the most visible?
I remember driving down from Olinda to the one on Lygon street many years ago and buying a slab, which on our return was greeted not with the fanfare our departure enjoyed, but with snores. It's a long drive.
doesn't it just come down to the issue that there is drunken violence on the cbd streets, and brumby can't think of what else to do. well he just can't think full stop. just going for easy, visible options that get publicity and not thinking it through.
i used to live around the corner from the exford and it came in very handy lots of times. but like what someone else said, during day hours, i went somewhere cheaper.
I walked past the Exford yesterday. I saw no louts.
3AW hate this place!
I nearly didn't make it out of there alive after a DDC.
No Shorts on weekends policy?!!?!
Fuck you exford!
this place was really useful to us on our last trip to Melbourne.... why the fuck re-strict it. they have security there, i've seen people denied after midnight.
a shithole it may be... but having a bottle-o open after midnight was a fucking godsend (ps. there is no such thing in Sydney... by 12, its dry)
A friend was kicked out of the Exford for touching people with a mannequin hand.
Another was barred for jumping off the bar onto her friends, so it is a bit up and down.
It shits me as its never open 24 hours anyway. It seems to close at 3 most nights, maybe 5 on weekends. Its not as bad as they make it out to be. You buy alcohol to go home. It just happens to be in an area with lots of restaurants/nightclubs so theres heaps of people around all the time.
this place has helped many a houseparty i've been to over the years. i may have damaged my bike heading to and from, but i did love riding through the city with a mate, a slab shared over two backpacks (and whatever goon we could fit in), singing your way back to a waiting party. we felt like the vikings must have felt.
How long has the Exford had a little roped off nightclub-style queue to get in to the bottleshop part?
Copenhagen, London, New York...
Poor old Brumby is obviously a little sheltered.
The Exford is indeed pathetic! So you can't get in with ''work boots'', despite them being a sturdy and safe option. I can understand venues that wish to attract a certain clientele (sp?) but The Exford is bordering on being a bit of a shithole and I never thought it had aspirations to be anything other than a magnet for sleazy backpackers and businessmen! There is nothing great about it aside from the bottle-o. Maybe it's just the bouncers making their own judgments but, really, it's a pretensious version of Tankerville.
me and a friend got turned away on a saturday night, queuing up to buy booze to go back to her house. we'd had one bottle of wine between us over dinner and were by no means as drunk as the bouncer told us we were. Stupid prick.
yep. happened to me last night.
i retract this post.
fuck you exford. never again.
it once had a ''groovy'' bar upstairs with 60's blues and pop and such. Whatever happened to that?
Strange. I've never had any problems with staff at the Exford, and have gone their regularly for the past 4ish years (not so regularly these days though). My visits these days lean to afternoon forays, but my evening visits have always been the tail end of pubcrawls, and I've never been told I was too intoxicated to enter...