Anyone ever cut sick at their boss...

anyone ever use the term cut sick
and kept their friends?

i'm nearly at the point of txting it to someone right now.

I once stood over my incredibly short boss with my face very close to hers and absolutely seethed the words ''Jacqui, if you ever push me again...'' before glaring at her for a few threatening seconds, before walking off.

I was 15. My (usually crazy and on this occasion physical) boss was very sweet to me for a long time after that. I was lucky, I guess.

Tell us yr story, ashtray.

Yep, many times.

this was an italian restaurant and 'cutting sick' was part of the job description. it kept us all honest.

almost a few times with one boss, but it didn't seem worth it so i just told them in plain softly-spoken non-aggressive words what my problem was and that seemed to fix it just fine. i felt totally zen for the rest of the day.

OK 'cutting sick' was the worst choice of words I admit.

It's a lot more fun when you have decided to leave the job, but then I call it 'blaze of glory'

No, at the restaurant, cutting sick was pardishpig's preferrs preferred nomenclature

fucking iphone.

that should read: cutting sick was part of the dishpigs' preferred nomenclature

i agree with robbie, its more fun when you are def outta there. but man it does feel good to 'get things off your chest'

i wish i could do this today, but it's not who i am, and ultimately, it's not worth it. but fucken! right now i am looking for a new job purely so i don't have to deal with my boss' passive aggressive bullying shit.

vent over

Stats vs the boss.

Boss leaves the company.

True story.

If you get to the point where you feel you are about to really lose it, I think that suggests stress levels are already too high. It's important to not suppress it as you may explode at a time that isn't appropriate and do unintentional damage... i.e. lose your job (which, regardless how you feel now, will create more trouble than it's worth).

The key is to acknowledge that things have gone too far - that level of stress in a job doesn't need to be put up with. Life is too short!

Once acknowledged properly (and you stop trying to supress it/deny it) you can then deal with it calmly - as you are prepared for the outcome, but still in control of the situation and your reaction.

Maybe write down in private everything about your boss that pisses you off - no one needs to read it, so go nuts - then go for a run/walk to de-stress, and once back compose an objective list of points you want to bring up with your boss. Request a meeting at a time that suits, and tell them you've given the matter a lot of thought and feel you really can't go on without articulating the problems you're having.

That way if they're dickheads about it, you have thought it through calmly and done your best to resolve the situation rather than simply lost it (i.e. 'cut sick'). But they may just respect your approach and things will improve... happened to me.

Good luck

I once kidnapped my boss because he wouldnt pay me. He paid me.

I once sat in my bosses office with my feet on his desk and refused to do any work because he had gotten me to place some bets at the tab for him and i was under 18

i once told my boss i couldnt work because my brothers pet tiger had run away and that i had to catch it before the rspca found out he had it

I think it was just a build up of little things over time that grated on me and this was the last one that set me off. I think I'm just sick of his lack of trust in me and micro-managing.

I've calmed down now thanks to a brutal boxing session at the gym. I think I might bring it up with him tomorrow. Which brings me to another question: how do you politely tell your boss he or she is doing things that absolutely shit you to tears?

I've calmed down now thanks to a brutal boxing session at the gym.

Nice! I miss boxing :(

It's all about how you articulate yourself. Hence why I think you should prepare what you're going to say by writing it down. And don't be afraid to take it in with you - it sends a message to your employer that you have thought about what you wish to say (i.e. you're calm and logical) and that you're serious.

Instead of making accusations, try statements like: ''When you do... it makes me feel frustrated because...''

A positive way to deliver the message is to break down everything you want to say into premises + conclusions, then finish with a suggestion for improvement. E.g. ''When requests aren't communicated clearly (premise) that can lead to misunderstandings which are counter-productive (conclusion). It would help me if we could find a better way to communicate.''

The premise/conclusion model presents a valid (logical) argument, by adding a suggestion for improvement it shows you're also taking responsibility for the situation and want to make things better (rather than allocating blame or seeing yourself as a victim etc).

Likewise in their response, be prepared for an attack (if they're on the defensive) and just focus on the validity of their counter-argument, i.e. their premises/conclusions, before you respond. The best way to maintain the upper hand is to remain calm. Even if you end up concluding that it's time to go, you'll feel better knowing you didn't blow your top/cry/storm out etc etc.

That's all awesome advice - thanks!

Yeah - I took notes in once. Helps you keep on point and maintain the focus.

Wonder what they'd say if you asked if you could record the conversation!

shazzat gives good advice

i had a workmate who 'cut sick' and it royally screwed him up. he lost his job, couldn't find another one of a similar calibre because he couldn't get a reference and he basically ended up looking like a nutjob, all because he couldn't deal with it calmly, professionally and make a graceful exit. his emotions totally clouded his judgment and his behaviour.

if you don't want to be in the job, stay civil and just find yourself another job, even if it's not something you want long term. better to be out of an unhappy situation.

oh! and another thing. if you need to talk, do it in person, not with emails.

Great approach by Shazzat.

Ashy, don’t forget to arm yourself with all the great things you have been doing to remind them that you can be trusted and that you are a valuable asset to the company. And if mirco managing is a concern suggest to them that you feel you will perform better if you only had to report back to the boss once a week, or every 2 days (whatever it may be) and suggest trialing that for 1 month. Acknowledge to them that you share the same objective (e.g increase sales, increase productivity, etc etc) and that you feel working this new way will help achieve those objectives.

Like Shazzat was saying, bosses don’t want to hear problems, they want solutions, so take them in with you... in a calm manner and you'll benefit.

Or course, some people are just fuck whits, and if they cant be reasoned with in a professional manner. In that case you need to weigh up the value of your current role to you, and perhaps consider the 'Blaze Of Glory' strategy.... after you have secured a new job of course.

Shazzat are you a psychologist?

bosses don’t want to hear problems, they want solutions, so take them in with you... in a calm manner and you'll benefit.

is this the management speak thread?

Shazzat are you a psychologist?

Hardly!

All got sorted this morning over a coffee. It felt quite strange to be telling your boss that he does things that annoy you.

i didn't cut sick.

i wrote a letter to head office and had him sacked.

I've never cut sick at my boss. We have three different levels of management all working from within our lab, and last time I got really annoyed at one of them I vented to one of my other bosses, which was a great way to get it off my chest. Our bosses are pretty accepting of us putting our views accross, as long as we're not way out of line.

Plus I knew the boss I vented to gets frustrated at the boss I was pissed off with as well. It's okay, cos that boss isn't responsible for my section anymore.