no more PoPE in NSW

I heard there was gonna be something. That's BIG news though, right?

Which radio?

Would that make warehouse gigs legal? Sorry, i know very little about the legislation.

heard there's some stuff on facebook as well?

meeting/announcement today about changes to live music.

the report was lacking to many details... Look out for news reports soon I guess

From here.

From Monday 26 October 2009 the NSW Government will abolish Place of Public Entertainment Licenses (POPE) required for local venues to play live music. These reforms will make it easier for licensed venues to host live entertainment and music.

More information here:

The new system, in operation from 26 October 2009, will work like this:

Place of Public Entertainment (POPE) licences are no longer needed – venues can have live entertainment as part of their main business without the need for separate approval

Entertainment is now defined as part of normal activities at pubs, restaurants and clubs during the week and on weekends. Examples include a small restaurant engaging a jazz trio, a Celtic folk band playing in an Irish pub or a rock band in a club

For new venues, live entertainment matters will be considered as part of the development application

There will be a range of measures to protect neighbourhood amenity, which are administered by the police, councils and the NSW Office of Liquor, Gaming and Racing.

(Waits for this to turn into a news story.)

Link to PDF factsheet for musicians.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/10/23/2722146.htm

about time - maybe a few things around the gong can get going again - like the Music Farmers shop??

so does this mean a venue (like the houey) no longer needs a security guard ?

It means that you no longer need an entertainment licence to have live music (or other forms of entertainment) in a cafe, club, restaurant or pub.

Entertainment is now defined as part of normal activities at pubs, restaurants and clubs during the week and on weekends. Examples include a small restaurant engaging a jazz trio, a Celtic folk band playing in an Irish pub or a rock band in a club

from here

In regard to warehouse gigs it depends on the existing DA for the space, if live music is their main business then I imagine there'll be some problems. For more multi-arts spaces it'll be interesting to see how this impacts the legality of shows/ performances of any kind.

Also more here.

This is incredible news for live music (and the arts generally) in NSW.

i am very impressed at all this

hey there

re-posting from my note on fbook group: I Want Live Music Venues - So I Go To Gigs
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=156915265982

the new NSW live entertainment reforms have been announced!
simply put, as of Mon 26th Oct the need for a 'Place of Public Entertainment License' (POPE) is abolished.

what this means > pubs, clubs, cafes, bars & restaurants will all now be able to host LIVE entertainment without needing to apply for, nor pay HUGE sums for a license as a license will no longer be needed.

more info here: http://www.olgr.nsw.gov.au/bb_music.asp
& here:
http://www.planning.nsw.gov.au/PlanningSystem/Legislationandplanninginstruments/ListofStatePolicies/PlanningforEntertainment/tabid/243/Default.aspx

so, for all you musos, promoters & agents looking for more gigs & places to play, approach your local pub, club, restaurant or cafe & get the ball rolling!

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just a bit more info on the POPE for those who dont know about it

up until October 2007 venues were required by law to have a 'Place of Public Entertainment' (POPE) License to be able to have live entertainment on the premises.

the POPE would generally cost $60,000+ for 1 year. And that is for the license alone, not taking into account any costly upgrades of the structure/security systems etc that may have been required.
(which explains why a whole lotta pubs/clubs decide/d not to host live music, & instead have pokies/jukeboxes as they are MUCH cheaper & are guaranteed to actually bring in money)

Since the announcement that POPE license applications were no longer required, there have still been some councils advising venues that they needed POPEs (when they infact didnt) which has def set back this process, and a whole lotta missed opportunities would have surly passed.

The abolishment of the POPE license has been in the works for over 6 years with local govt, Music NSW, NSW Office of Liquor Gaming and Racing, the Dept of Planning, the 'Raise the Bar' crew, heaps of lobbying musos & more all working towards these changes.

Basically what all this comes down to is that the nitty-gritty has been finalised, the red tape has REALLY been cleared, and as of Mon 26/10/09 the POPE is gone. no one can advise you that you need a license for live entertainment, as it DOESNT EXIST

So spread the word to your local establishments - drop by a pub, club, bar, cafe or resturant & ask them if they are interested in hosting some live music, or comedy, or poetry, or perhaps some dancers?
it's a free for all..and now FREE FOR ALL

check out this link for more info on this all. there is also a couple of factsheets that you can print out & take with you to your new possible venue/s
http://www.olgr.nsw.gov.au/bb_music.asp

hi again

im putting together an FAQ for this all, please can you give me your queries in this thread:
http://www.messandnoise.com/discussions/3784054

Awesome. Now the Sydney labels can organise underground warehouse parties, featuring Josh Pyke, Bob Evans and the fat guy from The Cat Empire eating a tray of hamburgers.