scam the scammer

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i did this once a couple of years ago with a Nigerian scammer. I kept him hanging like you have, told him i would leave my wife for the money, asked him to buy a boat with me when we got it, asked him if he thought he might turn gay with me etc etc until i admitted i was puling his leg

He got all angry and asked me why I was joking him and i pointed out he was scamming me and he agreed all fair in love and war.

Then we had a fair few more emails about why he does it, how life is so bad in Nigeria and how the gov there screws them all over

Was fun, lasted about 6 weeks and entertained everyone in the office when i would have a new email from him in the morning

I still have a copy of the emails back and forward...

it continues....

got his reply:

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From: Vanessa Cubriel
Date: Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 4:50 AM
To: Me

Hello again,

If you wish to go on with this deal and in order to open a case at ebay, please send me your full name and shipping address and they will contact you with more details,I'm a serious seller and if you don't want to buy it just let me know, I have other buyers waiting for me to contact them.

Thank you

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to which i replied...

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Hi Vanessa,

Please dont sell the item - I am definitely keen. Happy to pay the full amount.

I do need to know what colour it is though. As a woman yourself, I'm sure you can appreciate the importance of colour. My wife is particularly keen on lilac, or magenta. If its white we may have a problem.

Also, re ''full shipping address'' - I'm not sure what you mean, do you mean the address of my shipping company? Can we do it via train? Shipping sounds expensive.

Many thanks for helping me so far and for showing patience and understanding. I did the google on ebay and they seem like a reputable world wide site.

Thanks,

Pete

hahahaha

ha. funny.

I did the google on ebay and they seem like a reputable world wide site.

Hahaha

Get him to do something. i.e. say your friend is in whatever city he is in will meet him at such and such a place and such and such a time. Make it a really dangerous part of town. Say they have ALL the money for the car. That'll get him pissed off.

There's a website about people who try to get these scammers.

hahahahaha, gold.

419eater.com

check out the hall of shame hahaha

Alternately you could scam them, say you can access loads of cash if then send you a bit of money.

good stuff.

That website is crazy! People spend so much time and effort in scamming scammers. I'm not sure if it's worth it.

Oh my god, that 8 page one about the guy who gets the scammer to send him photos of his penis for ''religious reasons'' is pretty much one of my favourite things on the internet.

Er, by 'one' I mean 'submission on '419eater'

Well guess what, I am also just going through a transaction with this person. Exactly the same emails as you - exactly. I went as far as sending the money (I know - I was stupid) but managed to cancel the transaction before it was collected at the other end. More fool me. I finally caught her out by saying I had a friend in Darwin (which I do have) who would like to go and view the car. This only happened yesterday. Guess what - no emails from the mysterious Ms Cubriel today. And she sent some beautiful certificates from eBay saying she was a titanium seller. Have to laugh. Well at least I can now :) String her out as long as you can. I love her come-backs. Good luck.

I too was almost done....

28/04/08 2.41pm

Hello,
First of all I want to thank you for your interest for my car. I sell at this price(AU$5,800.00) because i just finished the divorce with my husband. When the divorce has finished i own this car. Now as a women i don't need. This car is in excellent working conditions, no scratches, flaws or any kind of damage, slightly used in 100% working and looking conditions and comes with a clear title, 3 months transferable warranty. From the beginning you have to know that for the payment I request ONLY secure pay, I prefer the payment to be done using eBay services. We will use a safe payment method because I am affiliated at eBay and I have a purchase protection account for $20.000.00Au. The final price that I want for this car is AU$5,800.00 including shipping and handling.
PS If you are interested in buying it please provide me your full name and address so I can initiate the deal through eBay.
I will wait your answer(if you are interested to buy) very soon!!
Thank you and have a nice day

**I Sent my details

I was sent an innvioce with her parents details....last name Clark bells were ringing why was her English soo bad if she was from America and her Parents last name is Clark??**

in collaboration with
sent this message to X .
Your full name is included to show this message originated from eBay.com and Gumtree.com.au Safe Harbor Service.

eBay Invoice For- 2004 BMW 318 CI -Marketplace : Gumtree.com.au

Dear X ,
Invoice for VPP Transaction Case ID 85B9Z455L9W18 between Vanessa Cubriel, as the Seller and Denise Hill , as the Buyer.
Please follow our instructions to complete the transaction safely.
To complete payment, you need to go with cash at the nearest Money Gram Agent location in your area and transfer the funds to our eBay Agent. The process only takes several minutes, it's easy to deal with and 100% secure.
Money Gram Money Transfer is the only service that has ultimate authentication of the identity of the receiver of funds. Several IDs and utility bills are required before the funds are paid.Therefore, no one else can pick up the money.
If you want to locate the nearest Money Gram Agent location in your area please click here.

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Item Information

2004 BMW 318 CI
$AU 5,800.00

Seller Details

     Vanessa Cubriel

     1114 Richmond Street 

     New York,10001,United States

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Payment Details

Buyer:

Subject :
2004 BMW 318 CI

Deposit:
3,800.00 $AU

Shipping:
Included

Remaining Balance:
2,000.00 $AU

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Delivery Information

Address:

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eBay Agent Details

First Name:
James

Last Name:
Clark

Street:
38 Avenue Parck

City:
New York

State:
New York

Zip code:
10001

Country:
United States

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Make the payment with cash using the agent's details

Fax or email us the following details from the payment receipt:

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Oh I could go on for ages.....but to cut a long story short

**I asked for a VIN so i could do a REVs check, was told all the papers where with the car. Was sent photos of certificates stating that they were a platum seller on ebay...Phat Imports...more bells...PHAT is a work Asian use!! Hence broken English!

Looked them up on Ebay Items sold and a member since 2007...the certificates were dated 2006!!

I was told I could have the car for 15 days and then if I still wwanted it I could send the rest of the money if not she would take the car back and refund my money

My last email to ''her''**

Sorry unless I can do a REV’s check I cannot purchase the car.

From: Vanessa Cubriel [mailto:vanessa.cubriel@googlemail.com]
Sent: Thursday, 30 April, 2009 4:14 AM
To: Atti
Subject: Re: BMW 318 CI m sports Convertible 2004

My eBay username is suspended because is in my old name and in this moment i use only eBay services

**when i was telling my brother he laughed and said he was almost done but with a boat!!

I think this person should be reported what do you others think is it worth our time? **

are you people retarded or something?

No if we were retarded we have sent the money without a REV's check!! I have heard of bitter people selling Ex's prized possesions for close to nothing....I did ask for proof that the car was now in her name!

My pic is one of the pic's I was sent ot the car....looked so genuine!! Just wish I could find the real owver to let them know what is happening!

Looks like a WA number plate.

Yes I am from WA that is part of the reason I fell for it didn't know it was in ''Darwin'' until a few emails into it!

http://www.zug.com/pranks/powerbook/

I like the p-p-p-powerbook scam

Hey, I'm not retarded. I still just have some faith in people and as Atti said, I have also heard of people selling possessions for a fraction of the price, especially in bitter divorce settlements, just to ensure the other party doesn't get much. So it is not so unbelievable that it could happen. But boy, am I glad I got out of it.

The car rego she gave me for 'my' 2005 CLK 320 Merc was a personalised plate but I couldn't tell which state it came from. The photo showed the car with normal NSW plates outside a car dealer's yard. Obviously she goes around and take happy snaps of other people's cars and then try to flog them off as her own. Nice one.

I got exactly the same emails (she obviously has a nice little set-up). The worst part is that I am sure many people have sent her the money. A nice little earner - for doing nothing.

And yes, she should be reported and I will be doing just that. The real eBay site has an email address where you can email them with information about scam sellers.

Didn't the terrible English have alarm bells ringing in your head?

Nah, I know many people, particularly Asians, who speak that way and write that way. so that wasn't too hard to believe. That's why I reckon she is doing so well. People believe her to be some poor little Asian thingy who has been through a terrible divorce. Happens. Just didn't happen to her !! Checked her name and there are a few more sites with Ms Cubriel on there including one from the courts in Texas in a child custody case. Unfortunately the documents won't open. I'd love to read the court's decision.

That powerbook scam is sooo good.

checked out the powerbook scam - brilliant. wish i could have dragged ms cubriel through something like that. revenge is so sweet. oh well. maybe someone else will be smart enough to do it to her.

I very nearly got scammed just then by a fake email claiming to be from eBay. It said I'd had to many failed login attempts and my account was ''limited''. It then asked for a whole heap of my personal details to confirm I was the correct user of my account. Had me going until it asked for my pin number. Fucken cunts.

What is happening in this world for crying out loud. Is everybody out there trying to rip us off? How are you supposed to trust anybody after being exposed to all the scams out there? And if you can't trust an email as originating from ebay - who the hell can you trust????