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hiponion  said about 5 years ago  or at  12:29PM on Wednesday, October 25 2006 in chat

with all that discussion in the 'wtf is wrong with people' thread, i got to thinking.

what do you guys think are important qualities in a good parent, and what do you think are the main tenets of evil-parent-dom?

i've got a couple of things to start off with -

good parents:

  • need to both be active in their kid's life, working life or no working life
  • need to both be a united front when it comes to discipline, there can't be a good cop/bad cop thing going on, shit doesn't work
  • need to remain approachable and honest about the 'big issues', if you tell your kids the truth about sex/drugs/alchohol etc they probably won't end up going crazy on them like kids whose parents coop them up until they're 18.

anyway. discuss.


angelic_layer  said about 5 years ago:

zzzzzzzz


sister  said about 5 years ago:

keepin' it real man.


j_beats  said about 5 years ago:

my parents rock. my dad answers the door during summer in his speedos. my mum - she makes good food.

that's me in the middle

fam


PelicanGodOfJupiter  said about 5 years ago:

Got a bun in the oven, onion?


hiponion  said about 5 years ago:

Nah. Just interested in what people think is important.


Thrummmer  said about 5 years ago:

Treat people with respect - kids pick up on this shit. Tell 'em you love em a lot. Ask their opinions. Show an interest in the stuff they do even tho their paintings and stupid songs mostly suck.


japanrodeo  said about 5 years ago:

do stuff with them and take them on holidays and forse them to watch documentaries


japanrodeo  said about 5 years ago:

FORCE


fethehellcat  said about 5 years ago:
  • need to remain approachable and honest about the 'big issues', if you tell your kids the truth about sex/drugs/alchohol etc they probably won't end up going crazy on them like kids whose parents coop them up until they're 18.

I don't agree with that. Well, at least I think there is a fine line. I don't think that you should lie, but I also don't think it's a good idea to be too forthcoming. Drug stories are not for your kids, in my mind. My parents had a pretty wild youth, and although I've heard some stories I know they got up to more than they admit. I like it that way.

The kids I know who's parents have told them wild strories about their own youth, or smoked pot with them etc etc, have all ended up screwed in the head. Kids need to rebel from their parents I reckon, and if you know that your parents have done everything and anything they could get their hands on, what lengths do you have to go to too rebel? You'll either end up mainlining heroin or feeling responsible for your parents in a Saffy-manner.

Anyway, that's just from my own experience. I don't reckon it's a good idea to let your kids know too many details about your crazy youth. Being approachable is good though.


japanrodeo  said about 5 years ago:

if you have kids you think they are genious, duh

it's important to teach them good work ethics and lead by example alla time


fethehellcat  said about 5 years ago:

wrong too. oh well.


triptolemus  said about 5 years ago:

I posted this somewhere else yesterday...relevant here. From a fathers perspective.....

Cowards play the game thing, Fathers do the brave thing, And that’s participating, He keeps on concentrating
There is no debating, No running away thing, A new life is awakening, From his ejaculating,
It’s in the oven baking
Takes two for the making, He’s right there through the cravings, And early morning waking,
School and educating
Sports and recreating, Karate and ballet thing, Teenager of today thing, Fathers still relating, Still communicating
And they’ll always embrace him, Cause they cannot replace him


japanrodeo  said about 5 years ago:

no drug paraphernalia in da haus


japanrodeo  said about 5 years ago:

dude, you are a poet, yo


japanrodeo  said about 5 years ago:

worst poem i ever read


onshiftingsands  said about 5 years ago:

Don't expect them to understand that that they're not mature human beings, so don't try telling them that.

Basically, treat them as people, educate them emotionally, but make them understand that there are consequences for running amok.


angelic_layer  said about 5 years ago:

agreed JP..no drugs or drug behaviour. or drugged out wank..work ethic..soooo important.


devo  said about 5 years ago:

A parent needs to be there to smack kids back into line when they are being fucking idiots and stepping out of line. All the other animals do it and you don't see them having deliquency issues.

I also can't understand why a parent would think it's OK for kids to be out roaming around on the streets or on public transport after 8:30pm? They should be home brushing there teeth getting ready for bed so that they can get at least 8 hours sleep.


triptolemus  said about 5 years ago:

I didn't write it japanrodeo.


PelicanGodOfJupiter  said about 5 years ago:

Don't get them to get into the crawl space to see if the rat trap has gone off yet...


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gobetween  said about 5 years ago:

I think there is a book, where did I come from. It's good to show the kids these books when you fall preggers with a new baby. That way u kill two birds with one stone and it's prep for the big talk when they are becoming adults.


hiponion  said about 5 years ago:

oh, and no fucking pokemon or dragonball z bullshit cartoons that normalise fighting.


triptolemus  said about 5 years ago:

Yes...sport is good. Particularly in this age of kids being obese before they are 10 years old.


japanrodeo  said about 5 years ago:

just keep them in a little plastic bubble, wsho, that should do it


de.foxus  said about 5 years ago:

nah, i'm more interested in the teenage discussions than the under 10's discussion...

i got the period and babies talk and when my mum asked me if i had any questions, i asked what was for dinner.


hiponion  said about 5 years ago:

worked for bart simpson, right rodeo?


japanrodeo  said about 5 years ago:

yeah , he's my hero


sister  said about 5 years ago:

when she was a teenager, I would watch tv and movies with my daughter that had some of those themes so we could talk about it.

none of mine have any interest in talking about sex with their parents. It's very difficult to have a conversation abuot sex when they don't want to engage.


triptolemus  said about 5 years ago:

> nah, i'm more interested in the teenage discussions than the under 10's discussion...

They grow up pretty fast foxy, can't leave this stuff too long. My neice is 12 going on 22...she acts & looks much, much more grown up than 12 year olds did back in my childhood. She's stunning too...hehehe....my poor brother.


hiponion  said about 5 years ago:

I remember in my sex ed class in grade 8 we were talking about sex and one of the kids in our class thought 'wanking' was a euphemism for sex, then later in the same class fainted when a childbirth was shown on a video.

He got shit for the rest of his time at the school. Poor kid.


svelteslacks  said about 5 years ago:

honesty, being approachable, constant encouragement, ensuring they know they are loved no matter what, allowing them the opportunity (if possible) to try out every crazy dream they have, letting them know that no matter what happens in life, things will work out ok the best they can.

but most importantly, teaching them about respect, decency and a deep sense of sensitivity towards others.


yourlover  said about 5 years ago:

some kids deserve to get teased, I think that's what you are trying to say.


hiponion  said about 5 years ago:

what i'm trying to say is that that kid clearly suffered from being sheltered.


hiponion  said about 5 years ago:

A sub-question:

What would you do if you found out your kids had been part of this whole DVD thing? Would you protect your kid and try to cover it up, or would you turn them over to the cops?

The choice is clear for me - they'd deal with the law enforcement officers first, and then me when they got out of juvy.


svelteslacks  said about 5 years ago:

make them accountable for their actions... it's the only way to learn.


triptolemus  said about 5 years ago:

Parents are prone to turning the odd blind eye...not over something like that though, that's way too wrong.


hiponion  said about 5 years ago:

Because it seems like there's been parents that have known about it, covered it up, then come out and dobbed people in well after the fact.


tinyman  said about 5 years ago:

if my kid had that dvd. i wouldn't want to turn them to the cops cos juvy may lead them to worse things.

however, i would spank them senseless.

disclaimer: i don't think i'd make a good parent.


toadphoney  said about 1 year ago:

Bump for mathieson


Morris Iemma  said about 1 year ago:

All parents are shit. What do you expect?


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