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Using famous people in a film clip - legalities?

the power of 666  said about 3 months ago  or at  5:51PM on Monday, August 18 2008.

as it says, if I used photos of dead people in a film clip can i get busted?

Thanx dudes


basil seal  said about 3 months ago:

and you'll have to put a warning up for indigenous people.


Ohyeah  said about 3 months ago:

depends 6'er, it depends on the photogrpher and when photo was taken. unlikley to be a paraody excemption,


ando  said about 3 months ago:

Are they photos of dead people, or photos of people who are now dead?


Ohyeah  said about 3 months ago:

it doesn't matter about the subject of the photo


DANNA  said about 3 months ago:

what ohyeah said.

hey ohyeah, is it life + 70 or life + 75 now?


ando  said about 3 months ago:

it doesn't matter about the subject of the photo

It does if they died gruesomely, and there's blood and gore everywhere. Ever seen a Brujeria filmclip? I rest my case.


Ohyeah  said about 3 months ago:

life + 70 used to be life + 50


ando  said about 3 months ago:

Actually, that makes no sense - I just remembered I have seen a Brujeria filmclip, and it was shit.

Please strike my testamony from the record.


dub3000  said about 3 months ago:

images of hendrix + elvis miiiiiight be trademarked by their respective estates, i think. maybe others as well.

maybe consider photos of impersonators?


the power of 666  said about 3 months ago:

Yep, they're ALL dead asides from Keith Richards, who should be.

If I, say, just find images on the net of Einstein, 2 Pac, Jeff Buckley, Kurt Cobain, Jesus etc.

What if I get someone to redraw them?


the power of 666  said about 3 months ago:

i've also planned the photos of impersonators route, but then you run into the same 'who owns the photo' rubbish, right?


Ohyeah  said about 3 months ago:

no photos are not trade marked.


Ohyeah  said about 3 months ago:

yes re impersonators route


Lucydiamond  said about 3 months ago:

asides from Keith Richards, who should be

Take that back.


Ohyeah  said about 3 months ago:

if the illustrator is making an illustration based on the photograph which includes a important, distinctive or recognisation part of the original photo, they will need original photograph copyright owner's consent.


dub3000  said about 3 months ago:

what about 3d models of their heads?


the power of 666  said about 3 months ago:

Take that back.

It was a compliment!

impersonators route is a good one, or yes as in yes you still run into the same trouble?


Ohyeah  said about 3 months ago:

that is a design registration.

that isn't to say you can't get an image registered as a trade mark it is just that you can't ''extend'' the life of the copyright by using trade mark law if you are not using that image as a trade mark.


Ohyeah  said about 3 months ago:

same trouble love sorry


the power of 666  said about 3 months ago:

fuck humans! I might make an uncensored one for youtube only

i'm a fuckin 'rebel


Bittervictorian  said about 3 months ago:

Aside from the copyright issues of the photographer discussed above, the route by which you might also get into trouble with the estate of the dead personality is that by using their image you might be implying some kind of authorisation/association from the estate to use the image (depending upon how tightly they control any use of the deceased person's image).


Ohyeah  said about 3 months ago:

or moral rights of the photographers if you use the photos in a derogatory way.


MountainMan  said about 3 months ago:

Celebs/famous people in the states also have a ''Rights of Publicity'' protection, which means you can't use their image commercially without their permission. I don't know if they're still covered if they've been dead for 70 years, or otherwise, though.


electrichips  said about 3 months ago:

What if you take the photographs of the impersonators yourself?

I'll dress up as Blimp Elvis for you, cockneck.


Ohyeah  said about 3 months ago:

problem solved 6'er, i'd take chips up on that offer.


electrichips  said about 3 months ago:

Get us all to dress up as dead famous people and film yourself rooting our corpses.


electrichips  said about 3 months ago:

holds hand out for moral right to idea cashmoney


Ohyeah  said about 3 months ago:

now you are getting creative chips and we didn't even have absinthe at lunch


the power of 666  said about 3 months ago:

sick

i'm just gonna dress up as myself and die

done!


electrichips  said about 3 months ago:

I think my idea is rad. You could even incorporate coolsie retro polaroids.

Opening scene:
Sixxxer in police station, handcuffed and bound a'la Hannibal Lector. Detective pulls out ominous yellow envelope and empties a pile of snapshots onto a table.

Close up to sequenced polaroids of:

Pills on table; white dress with heels poking out; blonde curly hair; Sixxxer rooting Marilyn Monroe's corpse

Bacon, peanut butter and syrup sandwiches, white sequinned cape; aviator sunglasses; tub of Brylcreem; Sixxxer rooting Elvis dead on a toilet

Guitar; burnt spoon; dirty Chuck Taylors; shotgun; Sixxxer rooting Kurt Cobain as he lies bleeding on a cement floor

Crown; leotard; gay porn video; buck teeth; Sixxxer rooting Freddy Mercury dead from teh AIDZ

Don't tell me this can't be done, cunce.


Ohyeah  said about 3 months ago:

river, cardigan, bloated corpse, sixxer rooting jeff buckley

nightclub, red velvet, vanessa paridiso, sixxer fucking what initially looks like a twig in cordoray but ends up being river phoneix


Ohyeah  said about 3 months ago:

gold ring, gold chains, couple of casino chips, sixxer rooting frank sinatra as his baby blues plead.


electrichips  said about 3 months ago:

sixxer fucking what initially looks like a twig in cordoray but ends up being river phoneix

Fuck yeah bish, that's what I'm talkin' BOUT!

Crocodile; khakis; blonde mullet; boat; Sixxxer rootin' Steve Irwin's barbed corpse

Miami Beach; incontinence pads; Sicily; Sixxxer rootin' Estelle Getty in Golden Girls make up


Ohyeah  said about 3 months ago:

at last he gets to shag a woman.


electrichips  said about 3 months ago:

We can't have that!

We'll get Hootie to dress up as Estelle Getty.



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