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So, How's Your Musicianship?

Rufus  said about 5 months ago  or at  3:56PM on Friday, June 20 2008.

so is your musicianship improving, plateaued or slowly declining?

my guitar playing had frustratingly plateaued for many years. felt as though i wasn't improving at all. then i realised i wasn't nearly focused enough on stretching my skills n' pretty much played the same songs, riffs n' scales every time a guitar was in my hands. also, i mainly used the guitar as a songwriting tool so it wasn't necessarily improving my guitar playing.

so i decided to quit thinking about writing songs and work solely on my guitar skills - learning other people's songs note for note n' concentrating on lead playing, new scales etc. over 12 months i improved a hell of a lot. in fact, i think i'm beginning to plateau again at this new level of playing.

any tips on how to keep breaking through and improve musicianship? what do you guys do?


Goal attack  said about 5 months ago:

singing - going downhill rapidly songcraft - same guitar playing - plateau

No time to sing, write or play. If you don't take it out and use it, it's going to rust!


astrousersasmind  said about 5 months ago:

As embarrassing as it sound to confess here I used to get Guitarist magazine and do their workshops. There was always some jazz nerd or fusion fan who would have an utterly different approach to playing and thinking about the guitar and that would influence my playing no end. Just deciding to focus on flamenco guitar for a while brings a totally new approach to writing even if you have no interest in flamenco music (see - Johnny Marr).


Woollen Kits  said about 5 months ago:

I never practice, but I think I'm getting a little better. But it's hard not to get better when you're as shit as I am.

I wish I could practice more.

My production skills are getting better by the day though, I think. At least I think so...


Rufus  said about 5 months ago:

imagine if we used ALL the hours we spent online instead to practice our instruments?

damn internet!


101010101010101  said about 5 months ago:

Shithouse.


loveparade  said about 5 months ago:

musicianship is overrated.


dub3000  said about 5 months ago:

i wish i could shred


thenewmeatloaf  said about 5 months ago:

declining with advancing age.

I almost never pick up a guitar these days unless I'm actually playing or rehearsing, and all my various bands rehearse sporadically at best.


RoastOxCrisps  said about 5 months ago:

i never learned to do sweep arpeggios.


medicineman  said about 5 months ago:

constantly improving but then disappearing as i'm not rehearsing with a band or gigging regularly

though the one thing that has improved markedly in the last year is my rhythm playing..... i'm fucking tight as now.... especially in a nice soul/rock and roll groove...

i practice a fair amount and i devour music books.... and though i will learn something and forget it... eventually it will show up in a jam or something....

if only i was jamming more regularly I would notice...


medicineman  said about 5 months ago:

and i am constantly intrigued by differnt styles and approaches and instruments which all helps...

at the moment i'm teaching myself flamenco (badly) and the pedal steel (so so so so hard)

though i won't become exceptional at either - I will learn lessons from each that will filter into my actual guitar playing


medicineman  said about 5 months ago:

unfortunately my song writing has stagnated as i'm not regularly wirting for a bad - so i start ideas and put them aside.... i have a huge sketch pad of ideas across different protools sessions at home and on cassettes and things....

so when i next need to go in i will have plenty of material to start with

but i'm finding it harder to finish ideas into actual songs at the moment


Pjeony  said about 5 months ago:

I'm learning to get worse every day


aaaron  said about 5 months ago:

I'm amazing at every instrument.


King_Rat  said about 5 months ago:

Aaron absolutely is, I may have in fact mastered every instrument in the world. Therefore I have plateaued on every possible style and flavour of tune on every possible thing in the world that makes noise. Fuck I am good. Although, I choose not to show off these talents and make shit songs to mock you.


SGH  said about 5 months ago:

WHERE DO YOU GET THESE SHIPS????????


Bugsy.  said about 5 months ago:

my musicianship is totally shit.........i dont even know the names of any chords and i dont know what being in key is.......i should have been a drummer


The_Tupelo_Flash  said about 5 months ago:

how can you not know the names of the chords you're playing?! that doesn't make sense to me. would be like painting and not knowing the names of the individual colors you're using.


astrousersasmind  said about 5 months ago:

''I let my guitar speak for me'' - as Adrian Edmondson so concisely stated


astrousersasmind  said about 5 months ago:

that's him, second from the right


Bugsy.  said about 5 months ago:

i dunno i just remember the shapes and patterns and where they are on the neck does learning the names of different colors in chinese make you a better painter?


King_Rat  said about 5 months ago:

Learning the colours in chinese, fuck. That is without doubt the worst example of comparison I have ever heard.


toadphoney  said about 5 months ago:

does learning the names of different colors in chinese make you a better painter?

No - but if you're forming a painting group with 3 other Chinese painters at least you can communicate effectively.


loveparade  said about 5 months ago:

nah the way bugsy learnt is the same way a lot of people, including myself learnt...then over time you learn the names of chords just from hearing them said, or learning other songs, or finding out....it happens naturally.


toadphoney  said about 5 months ago:

How do you say red in cantonese then?


King_Rat  said about 5 months ago:

BLOOOOOD


jimmytrash  said about 5 months ago:

When you start to plateau the best remedy is to take up another instrument (viola worked a charm, and Balalaika at the moment for me) and then apply what you have learnt to your main instrument.


FrankieTeardrop  said about 5 months ago:

I got nuthin' to work with.


switchbladesisters  said about 5 months ago:

if you got nuthin, I got ultra nuthin


FrankieTeardrop  said about 5 months ago:

Liar!


aaaron  said about 5 months ago:

King_Rat said 5 hours ago:

Aaron absolutely is, I may have in fact mastered every instrument in the world. Therefore I have plateaued on every possible style and flavour of tune on every possible thing in the world that makes noise. Fuck I am good. Although, I choose not to show off these talents and make shit songs to mock you.

U GOT CHOPZ SON


aaaron  said about 5 months ago:

SGH said 5 hours ago:

WHERE DO YOU GET THESE SHIPS????????

I built an ark for the flood where I'm going to make various master musicians fuck each other to repopulate the world with soundscapes of tuneful screaming babies.



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