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Morrissey and The Smiths

MyBlackHeartPain  said about 7 years ago  or at  3:19PM on Friday, September 14 2007 in music

oh. my. god.

i saw The Queen Is Dead atop some music poll, so i went and bought the album, and it's the greatest thing from the 80s i've ever heard. i wasn't even born when it came out.

i've been reading a lot of the singer Morrissey's lyrics, and he's really really good. Anyone else know them? You're all old, so you should!!

Are The Smiths still around, or did they turn all lame-o?

nyx  said about 7 years ago:

superfast pointless reply

steveholt  said about 7 years ago:

I think I saw them play at a mates wedding the other week. They've resorted to Robbie Williams and Dave Matthews Band covers

MyBlackHeartPain  said about 7 years ago:

haha, i hope that's not true!

Ark Shattack  said about 7 years ago:


How's Glenelg? Did you realise that's a palindrome?

MyBlackHeartPain  said about 7 years ago:

Glenelg is still ok. Thanks Ark Shattack.

Ark Shattack  said about 7 years ago:

How's mom?

MyBlackHeartPain  said about 7 years ago:

She's living with her new boyfriend.

This thread is awesome.

Peter  said about 7 years ago:

you might enjoy reading The Severed Alliance by Johnny Rogan, MBHP. it's ''the definitive story of The Smiths.'' i'd give you my copy - I have a couple of 'em, (one's actually signed by the author, no small thing considering who the author is...) but i always try to encourage people to check out their local independently owned new and used book stores.

MyBlackHeartPain  said about 7 years ago:

hey Ark Shattack, did you see this story on this awesome website?:


MyBlackHeartPain  said about 7 years ago:

thanks Peter!

Ark Shattack  said about 7 years ago:

Ha, I did actually. Did your mom and her new boyfriend enter?

I did. This guy from work did too, but he doesn't have a chance. My chance is much better because I am awesomer than god.

ratz  said about 5 years ago:

CaptainFez  said about 5 years ago:

Until today I had no idea that the picture on those two best-of albums was a Dennis Hopper.

Taschen are selling a 100-run print of the photo, signed by Hopper. A steal at only a thousand quid.

CaptainFez  said about 5 years ago:

(I think it comes with his book, too, which - given that it's 450 quid - is probably a good deal.)

postergirl  said about 5 years ago:

I just did a bit of research and it seems there is no version of this book that plebs like me could afford. It's either the £1000 'art edition' or the limited edition (the £450 one, of which there are 1500 copies). This is grossly unfair.

CaptainFez  said about 5 years ago:

Just wait. Taschen will do a cheaper reprint in a couple of years. They're doing it with the Newton book.

Earl Brutus  said about 5 years ago:

Im partially aggrieved at the title of this thread. Its like saying jarvis cocker and pulp or edwyn collins and orange juice. Sorry.

Urquhart Bluff  said about 5 years ago:

Ha ha! I thought the same thing when I saw it. Morrissey and The Smiths are my favourite band of all time!

postergirl  said about 5 years ago:

Just wait. Taschen will do a cheaper reprint in a couple of years.

But … but … I don't wanna wait that long! I could be run over by a bus before then!


postergirl  said about 5 years ago:


Cover art would be more appropriate for a book about women's shoes or cocktails or something.

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anok  said about 2 months ago:

damnit - pals got moz tix and want to plan a roadtrip, but i don't want to commit until everything is out there.

tugboat  said about 2 months ago:

Pan Amateur  said about 2 months ago:

Enjoying the new Johnny Marr single, the Forum is going to be rammed with ex-goths for his show.

Eple  said about 2 months ago:

I'm about 50 pages from finishing A Light That Never Goes Out: The Enduring Saga of the Smiths.

lekkas  said about 2 months ago:

Any good?

Northside  said about 2 months ago:

Yeah any good? After reading Morrissey's book, I'm not sure if I can handle any further documentation of The Smiths.

TheBigShip  said about 2 months ago:

none of the bios i've read get close to The Severed Alliance, but i'm curious about that one too...

Eple  said about 1 month ago:

A Light That Never Goes Out: The Enduring Saga of the Smiths that was good but I then went and borrowed the Johnny Rogan book - The Severed Alliance from the library. The version is the updated version so I might just read the added in bits. Johnny Marr I always thought was a good guy and he still is but reading the first book has made me rethink it.

Also reading Tracey Thorns book but thats for another thread.

Campsie Library has the best books!

Arthurly  said about 1 month ago:

Hey Eple - what's that Tracey Thorn book like? I almost purchased in when I was in Paris waiting for the train (how ETBTG of me) but I didn't and now I kinda regret it.

Also, listening to The Smiths Peel Sessions I was bowled over by how tough they could sound at times.

Eple  said about 1 month ago:

Arthurly> I got the book Sunday and have been reading it everyday. Its great so far, I guess I always thought of EBTG as a twee acousticy type of thing but I will have a listen and go back. Tracey is abit of a hero for me as I kind of have the same jawline as her..I know that sounds weird but when you look not pretty you need to find people who you can kind of bounce some sort of look off because you know you dont look like Kate Moss.

I'm up to where Ben has been diagnosed with his syndrome.

I really liked the early bit of her career and her talking about that scene with Scritti and The Marine Girls etc. I'd read it.

Arthurly  said about 1 month ago:

Did not expect the levels in your reply. I bet you have really nice eyes.

Eple  said about 1 month ago:

Yeah they're dreamy blue :)

Kez  said 14 days ago:

Ghostface  said 14 days ago:

Some champion is hosting this party after Moz plays at the Opera House

Eple  said 12 days ago:

No book signing and no tickets to any opera house shows. But that looks fun.

crawdad69  said 13 hours ago:

Morrissey show at the Opera House was awful tonight. Possibly worst concert I've ever seen in my life.

Tonight I discovered there is no Santa. Just an ageing wanker who hasn't done anything of note since the Smiths/Viva Hate.

Droll, dull, dreary.

Your solo career is shite. Play good songs, not shit ones.

The song about Neal Cassady and Allen Ginsberg or whatever was cringe worthy, especially with the lame montage of beat poets projected above the stage. SHIIIIIIT. BOOOOOOOO. REFUND

Northside  said 6 hours ago:

I don't get the Moz renaissance love. Last three albums have been poor. Lyrics just don't stand up any more. Hope you get a refund.

geneclark70  said 5 hours ago:

Morrissey is generally as good as the songs he's singing. In 2012 we got a fairly balanced setlist and he was singing well and making an effort, which made up for the stolid, run-of-the-mill band.

The setlist for this week's Opera House shows are weighted to recent unimpressive solo albums which is a recipe for disappointment. His arrogance at insisting his later albums are up there with his best beggars belief, though maybe we should point a finger of blame at the media who still put him on a pedestal (4 or 5 star album reviews always) just so he agrees to give them an interview.

LoadMyRig  said 5 hours ago:

last night was so BOOOOOOORING, punctuated with confronting imagery and 4 good songs.

god what a slog it was. 16-year-old me was appalled.

anok  said 5 hours ago:


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