Primitive Calculators: Then And Now
In 1979 ALAN BAMFORD watched as “little band” scene instigators Primitive Calculators demolished the very foundations of pop at a weeknight gig at Melbourne’s Exford Hotel. Thirty years on, and at a rare appearance at a film festival shindig, he finds that some things never change.

Exford Hotel, Melbourne
Wednesday, September 26, 1979
Actually, this is half a review as My L have broken up. A group fraught with inconsistencies and unevenness: I felt they showed promise, but they are now defunct and their singer, songwriter and guitarist Mick McBride is now out in the cold. Unlike most, I await with some anticipation for whatever he gets up to next.
But on to the support group.
“Our recent efforts have all been complete disasters.” With a wry grin that seems to say, “Um, yes, well, it’s us”, while at the same time assaulting people with, “Well, we’re ready, are you?”, Stuart (guitar/vocals) opens the evening.
An overwhelming unique group, with no obvious reference points, the Primitive Calculators have recently been plagued by bad luck, sound and equipment. In particular, unsympathetic mixing – with Stuart’s guitar pushed right over the top – has resulted in onlookers gaining entirely false impressions of the band. Stuart’s playing recalls that of few others, except perhaps Lydia Lunch (Teenage Jesus and the Jerks). However, with Stuart in his right place, the guitar “just there”, the group as a whole positively shine.
The Primitive Calculators are Denise Rosenberg and David Light on keyboards, with David laying rhythms on a Wasp synthesiser instead of the now discarded bass guitar. Frank Lovece is responsible for the beats, utilising a drum machine and Stuart Grant sings and plays guitar. Frank also provides back-up voices. There used to be a conventional drummer, but he wanted to Billy Cobham all over the place, so I imagine they decided to assume complete control in that department and install a drum machine. After all, a beat’s a beat.
It was the fifth time I’d seen them, and finally being able to really hear all the instruments in a better balance led me to discover just how pretty and delicate, dare I say subtle, the Primitive Calculators can be with their melodies and rhythmic arrangements. The beats worked out by Frank are now more complex, lending more character to the songs, without being overbearing, and I began to more properly appreciate the drum machine I used to view as sterile and a bit of a cop out. David in particular seems to have matured in the time since I saw them last (having witnessed none of their recent debacles), appearing a great deal more confident and the picture of concentrated effort. And he also seemed to have fun.
Denise, who often plays with an expression of amused and mild confusion on her face, always gently in time, her instruments emitting a series of complementary/contradictory sounds – harsh/pretty, atonal/melodic but never overdone, never indulgent. They play with complete economy; there’s never anything that distracts from anything else.
“It was the fifth time I’d seen them, and finally being able to really hear all the instruments in a better balance led me to discover just how pretty and delicate, dare I say subtle, the Primitive Calculators can be.”
Stuart, unquestionably the Calculators’ frontpiece, and the only one who stands up or talks in between songs, is the one you just have to look at. In a manner lacking any of the dramatic posturing of, say Nick Cave, he pours his body, heart and soul in a most physical way into every moment of performance. Projecting utter conviction he propels the group through, thrashing with all manner of abuse at his instrument, stepping to the side at the right times, to acknowledge the group as a whole, and seeming not to enjoy it at all. But I’m sure that he does – after it’s over. His rasping, disciplined voice complements his guitar playing and the two blend ideally with the contrasts of the group as a whole.
They play a number of covers and apart from ‘The Beat Goes On’, they have done versions of ‘Nothing’ (Fugs) and ‘White Cat Heat’ (Godz, first record) … if that gives you any indication. It shouldn’t. They have one disco number, and a truly riveting song called ‘Square Dance’. I tend to forget the names of songs, because the Calculators come on more as an onslaught of feelings and ideas, laying down challenges to the very structure of pop songs. Yes, Virginia – Pop Songs.
When they had finished, I was left feeling very happy, and with the question in mind, “Why do people make music like that?” As I see it, no great (intentional) statements about art, but a genuinely uncontrived and completely honest performance and some quite stunning sounds.
They are a very aptly named group.
The Primitive Calculators. Think about it.

Ding Dong Lounge, Melbourne
Wednesday, July 29, 2009
Sometimes it’s a real stroke of luck when you know the people in a band you love. Because then, sometimes, when they do weird things, you really get it. There’s always been a lot of humour in the Calculators’ music and especially in their delivery – witness the version of ‘Stains’ on their record. But reverence? Irreverence more likely I hear you say. Downright derision. Contempt, even.
The other night they played a gig, The Wardrobe Malfunction, loosely linked to a Melbourne International Film Festival program of films from the early ’80s, called the Post-Punk Mixtapes. Janis Lesinskis' clip for the Calculators’ ‘I Can't Stop It’, made in the backyard wasteland their house overlooked in 1979 North Fitzroy, was the first film in the five-part program which is a tribute to the time and a credit to can-do curator Michelle Carey. After a polyglot evening of films that fairly served up the melting-pot-of-ideas vibe that characterised the time, many of us headed off to the Ding Dong Lounge to have our ears cleaned by Gossip Pop, Pig and Machine and the Primitive Calculators. The shows were linked by being performances of music embraced by projected imagery and propelled by programmed dynamics - to varying extents.
Tonight, Gossip Pop was Sue Dodd by herself. I can't get engaged. Maybe it’s my fault but I defend myself. I've watched porn and I've investigated myself and maybe I'm a little too old to be preached at by a younger generation. I guess her themes remain, sadly, ongoing concerns for continuing generations but the show just felt like a tantrum delivered from a pulpit. When kids have tantrums you know it’s a stage; you just give them a cuddle, say something sweet that you actually mean and hope for the day they get over it and quieten down. Cuddles were clearly off limits - so I probably missed most of what was on offer – but while I giggled a few times and I can remember some of the imagery, I wasn't grabbed. I don't want her to quieten down - it's about the delivery.
But that said – and I haven't a clue what Yuka is singing about – Pig and Machine just convince me viscerally so I'm happy to let their world consume me and fry my senses. As I said to my learned friend John J, I would never listen to their stuff at home, and maybe I don't actually “like” it, but they're really good. In fact, what I really dug about Pig and Machine, was the balanced combination of pre-recorded material and onstage instrumental nutted-out spontaneity. John Harte is a captivating guitarist and Yukas's immersion in her act is compelling. The backing tracks are ferociously assaultive but employ no cheesy distortion, aggressive vocal samples, overstated bass or any other of the clueless cliches of the much over vaunted drill and bass muthefucka scene whose fascination infects Melbourne improv's flirtation with electronic(a). Pig and Machine are just ferocious, funny, warm, intriguing and mindblasting.
And so to the band. OK, so this is an arty film-festy event. So what do the Calculators do? Well, something with a film of course! First, they set up in front of the stage, standing just off the lip of the stage, looking back at the stage, backs to the crowd and with three sheets draped across the stage as an a/v triptych in a semicircular array. The band made a little soundcheck noise and then the screens were illuminated by (now my memory is hazed by the excitement that followed) three identical b&w images of Billy Thorpe and the Aztecs.
“They set up in front of the stage, standing just off the lip of the stage, looking back at the stage, backs to the crowd and with three sheets draped across the stage as an a/v triptych in a semicircular array.”
It all hung there for a messy moment, gestures to and fro, intriguing – what’s going on? – and then the Aztecs launched into a tune that was on their Live at Sunbury record, a bluesy stormer called ‘Mama’.
And the Calculators kicked off - The Aztecs and the Calculators played their own versions in sync! The band are all looking at the film, the audience is looking at the film, Billy's looking at us and it’s shreddingly loud. Stuart goes body-contortion-crazy screaming the vocal and the sound is really great - crisp and clear, especially the drums and bass. The song was long, like most Aztec workouts, and in the middle was a HUGE TOWERING DRUM SOLO from Gil Mathews. Who knows how long the drum solo is/was, but during it the Calculators played gorgeous improvised noise that worked perfectly. After the drum solo they slammed back in kinda sync and crazed up brilliantly to a freak-out rock’n’roll slam-down finish. Hands raised high, we all applauded the film and the show. Well that’s how I remember it all.
Then there was a short pause while the band set up onstage. All decent bands have some kind of stage act – like a way of being in front of their audience that usually includes some tropes that become affectionately regarded cliches. The Calculators are no different and this moment was the time for Stuart’s ritual abuse of Denise, a tongue-in-cheek blazing of the chick in the band by the frontman. Denise's laptop was glitchy and the derisive commentary freely flowed. There were other great satirical moments from Stuart including, “Are we READY”, yelled in call and response with, “YEAH!!!”, for a few minutes while sound crappiness was sorted. Sit back, close your eyes, imagine it, play it out - and giggle like we all did.
All of a sudden I noticed the screen displaying all the saddest images of Michael Jackson's media life from Oprah, news of arrests, the baby balcony incident and some very ordinary late career TV stuff. Well I
thought it was all there. Was it? Who cares? It brought it all back to me. The band did a totally unrecognisable (unless you knew the words - which I didn't) express-train heavy metal version of ‘Bad’, complete with new words except for the chorus (cause as Stuart explained, “The words are so terrible I couldn't sing them”) that stormed along for maybe 15 minutes. (Was it that long? It felt like it, and every
minute a gem of a moment.) And that was the Melbourne Film Festival Primitive Calculators show. Brilliant!
Satire and reverence seamlessly comingled in a totally committed performance perfectly suited to the event.
Now, listen ... gdang da da, gdang da da, dadung dadung gdang da da, gdang da da, well well...
Billy Thorpe wore his guitar high on his hip and had a tendency to point it at ya - a comin' at ya stance. Like Billy, the Primitive Calculators are always comin' at ya.
Michael Jackson was all about his dance - we should all be so unique. He did his dance.
C'mon baby.
Be yourself.
Do That Dance.
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The Primitive Calculators are performing at Chapterfest this Saturday (September 19) at The Tote Hotel, Melbourne.
Fantastic to see these together.
Brilliant, brilliant, brilliant! I missed the Ding Dong show, but reading Alan's account I feel like I was there. Would have been genius to see them 'jam' with the Aztecs.
Awesome old pics too!
Stuart with hair!
nice work Alan!!
Wondered how this gig went, good work.
where was the 1979 review published?
it wasn't published formally, but ''there's a chance it was just written, photocopied and left around lke a flyer'' (Alan).
From Denise re: the Sydney photos: ''I remember that gig in Sydney (the only time we ever played outside of Melbourne). It was at Scabs (wherever that was) and we drove up there with Whirlywirld the night before, played, then drove straight back. We were young and stupid.''
This group really do rule quite a bit.
That Aztecs thing sounds great, the show I saw recently was mostly (all?) old stuff so it is great to hear about them pushing off in new directions.
Paging meatie and Barman to the thread...
Such a great read, Alan! Those photos are fantastic!!! I just LOVE the Primitive Calculators. :)
original review with snaps from the gig here ~ Intermission Review
btw - a good listen about the good old days
great articles - alan - did we ever meet?? fantastic stuff with the aztecs film. would loved to have seen it.
ah person nonightsweats - sure havent met anyone by that name down the years and my address book aint over flowing with airline captains either - you can see pictures of me here Well - one at least ...
Awesome piece, Alan.
Fixed.
Sheesh. Some respect from the young uns, plz.
Whatever. Go Alabama!
Cheeky pup! With sauce!
Eat me!
Hey Bam Bam... is the 'J' short for Jacobs?
Dag Mag? 166 Johnson?
alan - sorry. i'm phil turnbull. used to be in voigt/465 et al. creator of http://www.nonightsweats.com - all about Sydney post-punk.