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AMBC Part 1: “I Can't Believe You Asked That Question”

Faint and feverish, A.H. CAYLEY quickly learns what not to say at day one of the AustralAsian Music Business Conference.

Part One: Thursday, August 20

The ninth AustralAsian Music Business Conference (AMBC) begins in just over an hour. I'm ill. Like, really ill. Worst flu ever. Hope it's not swine flu. I have a high temperature and no voice, and I think I'm delirious. I have committed myself to covering all three days of the AMBC, a music business conference organised by industry identity Phil Tripp and his company IMMEDIA! with an expensive entry fee (my ticket would have cost anyone else $660. And that's an “early-bird” price).

Is it a money-making wankfest or an insightful industry discussion? I can't wait to find out, but for now I just want to get inside and sit down, and rest before the first keynote speaker. So here I am, at Darling Harbour's Convention Centre, having carefully checked the address yesterday while munching on a glass full of ice and trying to stay upright.

“Hi, I'm here for the AustralAsian Music Business Conference.”
Blank expression.
“I'm sorry?”
“The AMBC. It's a music industry conference.”
“We have a conference on autism here today. Are you here for the autism conference?”
Fuck, maybe I am.
“Um, where's the nearest phonebox, please?”

Long-intro-short: I'm supposed to be at the ACER Conference Centre in Homebush. Thankfully, I manage to get there in time. With my free showbag in hand and my ID lanyard around my burning neck, I enter the dimly-lit conference room.

There are less people than I expected – so many empty chairs. As I entertain the thought of wearily counting them, a large bearded man with a bright shirt and a Texan accent commands the stage. He is Phil Tripp. At 58 years old, he has etched out a colourful career, and made himself quite an infamous name. I have heard so much about the man, each description usually seasoned with a pinch of four-letter words. I'm so curious to see what the big deal is.

Somewhat disappointingly, he is utterly charming, warm and witty – even when outlining the strict “one question only” policy for audience members. “We're the speakers, you're the audience,” he says. “If ya break the rule, I'll just cut ya down and embarrass ya in front of everyone.” It is his last year before retirement, and thus the final AMBC, nine of which have taken place over the last 18 years. He describes his satisfaction with his achievements, such as the AustralAsian Music Industry Directory, but feels the time is right to get out. “You can only reinvent the phonebook so many times,” he states. I can't tell if he's being ironically self-deprecating or hysterically self-congratulatory. Tripp then explains that of the usual 500 attendees, this year sees only 360. He's not bothered.

The first keynote speaker of the day is Jon Satterley, formerly the CEO of Roadrunner Records in Australia, and currently the senior vice president of new media and global business development for Roadrunner in New York. Confidently and emphatically, he presents his talk in the style of motivational posters. The first two: “Don't be shit” and “be awesome”. It's sound, practical and realistic advice – as is that of almost all speakers over these three days - but I can't help wondering how that's an insight worth the money the Adelaidean singer-songwriter sitting in front of me has spent on her ticket, travel and accommodation to be here. (Hint: it’s at least a grand.)

Twenty-five minutes in and I've come to realise the issue I have with the AMBC. While it gives no-bullshit advice relating to a career in music, this is only evident upon arrival. Its advertising seems to perpetuate the idea that there are industry “secrets” to be learnt for the low low price of several hundred dollars.

The majority of the audience is made up of wannabees with stars in their eyes and a vulnerable, easily-abused naivety. These are relative nobodies looking for a quick and easy ascent to somebody status. It's a refreshing and certainly healthy reality check to hear that it's not going to happen that way, but disappointing for so many: some of their expectations would surely have been that the insights revealed at this event would accelerate their path to stardom. Still, there's a real sense of optimism in the air that this weekend will “do it for certain, ma!”, as I overheard one interstate visitor declaring on her mobile phone. If someone really wants to pay up to $770 for that confidence, I don't see why they shouldn’t.

Satterley continues with some clear advice about customer business (revenues per fan is the “new metric”) and claims that physical products still matter (why shut down something that's working fine?). He suggests supplementing “merchandise” (CDs, vinyl, etc.) with downloads. He then brings up the interesting line that “labels matter” and that “bloggers declaring record labels as dinosaurs are talking nonsense”. Of course he would say that, being a high-ranking label representative, but it’s a comment that sees either repetition and disagreement from most speakers over these three days, and makes for some fascinating discourse. It’s one of his final comments, however, that sparks my ire: that the marriage of art and commerce is not always necessary, and often ugly. It seems this really is a business conference.

“The majority of the audience is made up of wannabees with stars in their eyes and a vulnerable, easily-abused naivety. These are relative nobodies looking for a quick and easy ascent to somebody status.”

A discussion follows the keynote address featuring Sony Music Australia's Ken Outch; Michael Smellie, former CEO of Sony/BMG and MD of Polygram and rooArt Australia; Marcus Seal, CEO of Shock, a man who not only namechecked Eddy Current Suppression Ring as an example of a band with both a clear vision and a good plan, but who is also taking on MTV Australia in a dispute over the non-payment of independent artists (clearly, a most awesome and righteous dude); Shaun James, the general manager of music channels for XYZ Networks; Sebastian Chase, CEO of MGM; Gerd Leonhard, a “media futurist”; and the aforementioned Satterley. I can't help but ask, based on what I've heard already, how much room – if any – is there for art and music within the music business? Bad idea.

“Plenty,” remarks Seal, incredulously, before he is cut off by James, who notes that it's about the artist's idea of success, and how much they're willing to compromise. I'd like to ask how much a label is usually willing to compromise with an artist, as opposed to an artist with a label, but my mic has been taken off me. One question only – and I've not enough voice to yell it. Seal then continues that the music is what it's all about. “And for me, personally, it's my culture and my life ... Looking at everyone here today, you can see how important it is.” And then the kicker: “So, I can't believe you'd actually ask that question.”

The obvious offense taken by Seal and the defensive nature of the rest of the panel, is certainly promising, and reveals a true love of music – even if it's now shrouded under industry wrapping. However, it's certainly not a question I'd dare ask again. It may be the fever, but I think I just melted under the glares from the stage. Following this, I spend the rest of the conference being approached by other attendees with the line: “You're that journalist, aren't you?” It’s usually followed by something along the lines of, “Hey! You should include me in your story!”, before a bio is either thrust in my hand or rolled out in one spiel. I'm dying here.

Speaking to Seal later to clarify my stance, he seems to have no issues with the question asked. “I think it was great,” he says, beaming. “It's something that certainly needs to be asked, that we all have to ask ourselves, otherwise we're probably not doing anything good.” I then ask him to explain the MTV situation. It’s alleged that MTV Australia will not pay public performance royalties to independent artists, as they feel they simply don't have to; that the promotion of being played on MTV is payment enough. While this may be the case for smaller artists, larger independent acts such as Bloc Party or The Prodigy don’t really need the promotional leg-up, and are responsible for drawing MTV's viewers and also its faux “indie” cred. Seal has been scathing in his and the Australian Independent Record Association’s fight with the channel, and joked that “they're about to put me in jail for it”. Shock will no longer provide MTV with any content.

In the break between this panel and the next keynote speaker (“internet innovator” Kevin Bermeister, the “driving force” behind Kazaa), there is a short speech from Smellie about the introduction of a music training package. Run through the IBSA (Innovation and Business Skills Australia, just one of the many acronyms we learn this weekend), the package will provide certified qualifications for musical students. According to Smellie, the Australian music industry adds $2-$3 billion to our national accounts and makes up for 250,000 jobs, so it’s an initiative that certainly makes sense. It’s what Smellie says next, however, that typifies the most prevalent theme of this conference. “The music business is oscillating around a tipping point,” he explains. “[There is] no point in looking at the past … the future of the music industry is all about the future.” Amen to that.

Bermeister then begins his address on a method of minimising illegal internet downloads. He argues that legislation must put ISPs and copyright on the same side of the law, and proposes that a “copyrouter” should be put into the network of every single ISP. This “copyrouter” should police all traffic and define what's being shared via the “hashtags” that each file represents, before blocking any traffic that has been flagged as unauthorised. They will then be replaced with legal files, at which point a charge will be taken from the ISP. Enforced censorship and unaware spending. Awesome. Not only a terrible idea, but thoroughly unrealistic and a slippery slope to greater internet policing. During his keynote address tomorrow, futurist Leonhard will declare that he has “not heard anything more ridiculous”, and is applauded by the entire audience for saying so. I can't listen to any more – no serious music magazine think piece is worth this – so I make my way to the bathroom to check my temperature. Ah, good: 39.8 degrees. I hear another line about “hashtags” emanating from the conference room before I hit the cold hard tiles.

Waking later (and surprisingly, unnoticed), I am in time to witness the artists and managers panel, featuring Dan Hennessy, principal of Aloha Management and former A&R head of Warner Music; Gregg Donovan, manager of Airbourne, Grinspoon and Josh Pyke; Edrei Cullen, director of One Louder management; Tim Levinson of Elefant Tracks, also known as Urthboy; and Guy Sebastian and his manager Titus Day. They discuss, among other things, how an artist can get a manager. Nothing too insightful is said, and it seems one already needs to have a connection to get a connection.

“There's a variety of ways,” remarks Hennessy. “If I hear a name or a song from three or four other people I know, I might pursue it.” Might. “Most managers do not respond to personal requests,” adds Tripp. Everyone agrees. So basically, you have to already be heard and known in order to get heard and known. And apparently, putting effort in is no help at all. “One song, one photo is all I need,” declares Donovan, before others add that big press packs or carefully designed sleeves are usually a turn-off. “One MP3 in an email,” corrects Cullen, before making a comment along the lines of not having the time to open a CD case and insert it into a player. Again, realistic and straightforward advice, but it just seems too insular, particularly for the Newcastle musicians I chatted to later, who know very few in the industry and had brought with them press packs that they'd slaved over.

The next panel focuses on branding, sponsorship and endorsements. It features Keith Welsh, chairman of the Australasian Music Publisher's Association (AMPAL, another acronym) and former co-publisher of The Music Network; Andrew Reid, managing director of Peer Group; Kim Green, music supervisor of Music Licensing Pty Ltd; Brett Oaten of Brett Oaten Solicitors; Damien Trotter, MD of Sony/ATV Music Publishing; Clayton Doughty, entertainment relations at Gibson; and Seal once more. In short: branding and sponsorship are a great way for a well-established band or artist to make some extra cash, but at what price? The “sell-out” argument is mentioned, but frankly, it's more money for a band you love, which allows them to make more music you love, right? I've always seen it as a good sign: if a brand uses “your” music, it means they're trying to target you, and that means you have the power of the consumer.

“Small bands and their subcultures have the credibility of being untainted,” explains Seal. “And their followers are the ones advertisers want. [They're more] cynical, suspicious and hard to reach.” Reid agrees. “Brands are looking for quality and credibility through music.” Being flexible, pragmatic, and weighing up the pros and cons is important, says Trotter, before giving an example of a Lisa Mitchell song, ‘Coin Laundry’, which was used in a UK detergent commercial. It apparently broke her over there, and she's just played Glastonbury. “But we'd never license it for an Australian ad,” he qualifies. Refreshingly, the focus is off the tiresome “sell-out” argument, not that it would deter many in this crowd: they can't wait to do it.

Day one is over. Waving off a flurry of proffered business cards – “Hey! You're that journalist!” - I make my way to Olympic Park train station. I've been pleasantly surprised by the depth of discussion today, and I'm actually really looking forward to tomorrow. Now on my train, I stupidly make eye contact with another passenger. “You're that journalist, aren't you?” She slides in to the seat next to me and laughs. “Oh man! I can't believe you really asked them that question!”

Tomorrow will be a very long day.

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Part two: A.H. CAYLEY finds herself party to a section of the Australian music industry that is – shock horror – open to change and progress.

  -   Published on Wednesday, September 16 2009 by A.H. Cayley.
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Your Comments

shaun  said about 4 months ago:

Great article.

I would have used my one question to tell Kevin Bermeister he's a fucking idiot.


Modi  said about 4 months ago:

To which he would have replied, no doubt, ''Question form only, cockneck''


SheikYerbouti  said about 4 months ago:

Why, is it Jeopardy? ''Do you know that you're a fucking idiot?''


darling nikki  said about 4 months ago:

Good read.

But did Phil Tripp do his 'I buy $4million worth of music a year and I download it all from itunes' rant?

I like that one


Modi  said about 4 months ago:

I dunno, Sheik, the whole ''One question only'' restriction seemed to suggest a level of question time dictatorship


world champion  said about 4 months ago:

How is it possible to recognise a journalist?


tinyman  said about 4 months ago:

one day sounds painful, do you really need to revisit twice?


NiteShok  said about 4 months ago:

Amazing read. Well done - look forward to day two.


tinyman  said about 4 months ago:

please go to the autism conference the next day.


Zaphod  said about 4 months ago:

Nice article Cayley. Tho you really need cut out the whole ''lines of horse in the cubicle'' thing. If I've told you once..


annehelena  said about 4 months ago:

One question per panel/discussion, not per day. To avoid people dragging on with four-part questions when it can be condensed into one.

Didn't make that clear enough, sorry.


simpletune  said about 4 months ago:

Enjoyed this one - looking forward to the next! Nice work on those acronyms :) It's actually quite nice to have the details...


mipearson  said about 4 months ago:

mipearson  said about 4 months ago:

Also, wicked article :)


dombro  said about 4 months ago:

Great read A.H.!


Alright  said about 4 months ago:

great article!


crackwhore  said about 4 months ago:

yep, sounds spot on.


incognito  said about 4 months ago:

cool piece annehelena


philtripp  said about 4 months ago:

I thought AH's article was terrific!!!! Loved it... the style, the pace, the observations were spot on. She is an excellent writer and it was well delivered. I can't wait for the other two days too! I had figured I'd be roasted black but so far, only slightly crisp on one side.

I've shot her an email through Danny just noting a couple of factual errors (really minor, like it was the 9th conference, not 18th), Early bird price was $440, not $660. And so you know, the early early bird rate was $385. $660 is the regular rate, and the same standard discounts of 10% to APRA, AAM and MMF members applied to all rates, 20% to students.

Still a great read and I'm sure it will raise a lot of comments.

So you know, we received not a single complaint nor request for refund which is amazing and also a mark of the satisfaction level.


annehelena  said about 4 months ago:

Phil,

Thanks for the kind words.

As I just mentioned to you in my email regarding the price: I have the program in front of me which clearly states that a 3 day ticket bought between June 15-July 31 is $660, after which it rises by $110. Is this not the early bird? Yes, there is a student and MMF/AAM/APRA discount, but I fit into neither of those categories so it stands to reason that ''my'' ticket would have cost $660.

The 18th conference issue was a mishap/typo on my behalf, as I note later in the piece that it is the 9th in 18 years. Thank you for picking that up; it will be changed.

Perhaps we could keep any further correspondence to emails, please.

AHC


number_nine  said about 4 months ago:

Have you been to see a doctor? Are you feeling better?

I hope so.


philtripp  said about 4 months ago:

Hey AH, I didn't get your email yet as was having dinner and watching the noose, err news.

I understand your confusion on rates. The early early bird rates were November 1 to January 15 and that was $385 for all three days. From Jan 15 to June 15 was early bird rates. $440 for three days and less for two and one. The above discounts applied and 75% of tickets were purchased prior to June 15. So most people got their seats for far less than the standard rates which were June 15 to July 15 (which we extended BTW to August 7). And most aqlso took the discounts for APRA/AAM/MMF/STUDENTS.

PT


101010101010101  said about 4 months ago:

When the going gets weird, the weird get free three day passes.


philtripp  said about 4 months ago:

Yep, she deserved it. And her article is a bit gonzo but brought me my money's worth of laughs. It actually cost us nothing.

PT


annehelena  said about 4 months ago:

Okay, Phil, that's fair enough on the ''early bird'' matter.


poprocks96  said about 4 months ago:

Pay phones? How quaint.


goldbuttons  said about 4 months ago:

top read anne.


philtripp  said about 4 months ago:

You may want to get a laugh from Loose Cannon at
http://www.themusic.com.au/imm.php?s=phil
which covers a conference in Africa, that 'borrowed' our agenda.


adamdmills  said about 4 months ago:

fantastic article, anne. gonzo forever.

ps. i hope you're feeling better.


alpsofmessandnoise  said about 4 months ago:

wow, phil tripp is on messandnoise? i can ask all the questions i want!

seriously good article though! great job.


philtripp  said about 4 months ago:

Sure, ask a question. One question. Make it a sentence, one sentence only or two at the max, without your resume or why you are jacked off about the industry. That's kinda how we word it.

So fire away...


goldfoot  said about 4 months ago:

How are you enjoying that extra large jar of mayonnaise you bought at the supermarket today Phil?


101010101010101  said about 4 months ago:

Phil, I have a question:

I don't know if you've heard of me but I've been developing my street poetry for about twelve years now. I've got a bunch of hits on myspace lately and I really think I need to take it to the next level. The problem with it is my girlfriend is really sick at the moment and I don't want to leave the house. I've been able to write a bit about it but it can't really be street poetry if I'm inside. I put my amp out in the street but some guy with an Alice in Chains t-shirt stole it. It's okay because I found another amp with three twelve inchers, which is pretty weird and kinda pointless considering most of what I do is just beatboxing. So, getting back to my question, my myspace is http://www.myspace.com/truthspeakfools and I really think I'd be contributing something great to this dying industry. It's so difficult for artists like me to really make it in a world so focused on looks. I'm not unattractive but I have a facial scar from when I knocked a pot off the stovetop when I was five. I've drawn inspiriation from it in some of my art but I think the commercial appeal is still pretty much limited because of this. What do you recommend?


liamsnice  said about 4 months ago:

good work, very well written.


philtripp  said about 4 months ago:

I used the mayo in the Guacamole and also in some great mustard cole slaw. See recipe at philtripp.com

101010 I didn't even get past the first line. Didn't read the rest.


101010101010101  said about 4 months ago:

Too much guac?


MissAustralia2003  said about 4 months ago:

Dear Phil, will you get BadAlex to manage the one question policy? Oh I've just used up my question.


annehelena  said about 4 months ago:

Ash-showoff  said about 4 months ago:

The kids are coming!


crackwhore  said about 4 months ago:

linky not worky?


annehelena  said about 4 months ago:

crackwhore  said about 4 months ago:

thanks!


philtripp  said about 4 months ago:

I think this is the best part of Anne's triad of articles. The third certainly summed it up.


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